Who has the right to say they have an original strain

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Who has the right to say they have an original strain

Postby Mike Leonard » Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:10 am

Just wondering what you thought. This doesn't pertain to just blue dogs but who has the right to say they have and ORIGINAL strain of blueticks?


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Re: Who has the right to say they have an original strain

Postby liontracker » Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:22 am

Maybe Elbert Vaughn?

Maybe there is no such thing...
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Re: Who has the right to say they have an original strain

Postby LCK » Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:32 pm

This could get good LOL.
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Re: Who has the right to say they have an original strain

Postby powderhorn » Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:36 pm

Define "original".. In my opinion, this is nearly impossible to consider without knowing what exactly "original" is... Is rocky-road an "original" icecream flavor? Or are no new flavors original since they all came from vanilla in the first-place? :?:
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Re: Who has the right to say they have an original strain

Postby liontracker » Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:46 pm

Kind of like Cameron bred, when it did not come from Del?
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Re: Who has the right to say they have an original strain

Postby Jeff Eberle » Fri Feb 05, 2010 3:45 pm

Key word is strain I think when you take a dog that was bred to run coon. And bred and cull for 20 plus years. To excell at the game you run. That is your strain. Look at the Trigg,Running Walker & July They are Strains of the walker
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Re: Who has the right to say they have an original strain

Postby Majestic Tree Hound » Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:20 pm

Was the Ped on the Right one of Vaughn's Start ???

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Re: Who has the right to say they have an original strain

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Re: Who has the right to say they have an original strain

Postby Brady Davis » Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:00 am

I may be wrong but I'd guess anyone who TRULY has originall dogs may not speak our language! :wink: They may be on another site www.chien-courant.com


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Re: Who has the right to say they have an original strain

Postby B-N-Trees » Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:13 am

Gascon French Hounds... goes back to some real roots.
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Re: Who has the right to say they have an original strain

Postby Brady Davis » Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:11 pm

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Re: Who has the right to say they have an original strain

Postby liontracker » Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:24 pm

So Mike, what's your opinion on this?
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Re: Who has the right to say they have an original strain

Postby pegleg » Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:47 am

by original are you referring to the first bluetick hounds? I didn't read the question that way. I would define original as the first group that deviated from their direct ancestors in one or more very obvious ways. and bred true to this variance until a outcross was made. this has a small bearing on a topic i have been thinking about. cameron hounds, my hat is off to the man for creating or maintaining these hounds however you look at it. they have a lot of qualities I find pleasing. but I can't describe them as true cat dogs as a strain. I know this will cause hate mail etc. but most aren't. everyone I've hunted behind preferred bear/coon to cat. I am not saying they wont make good cat dogs but they will pick a bear trail if given their choice in my experience. I haven't hunted behind a lot of them but the few i have had gave that appearance. maybe there is a few in there that prefer cat from the start and if thats the case I'd love them. any way the first breeder who got blue dogs that preferred tree game to running game deer etc. started the orginal generic blue strain. but history tells us this trait was breed into all the hounds ( - plotts) before they were divided into colors then further changed physically and in some other traits. so maybe it belongs to the first pot hunter who got his foxhound to tree and bred for that trait.
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Re: Who has the right to say they have an original strain

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Re: Who has the right to say they have an original strain

Postby Bluefloyd » Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:31 am

I would have to say that the blue dogs on my place are "ORIGINAL" Hennessy hounds. Oh sure I have taken the genetics from Cameron and Caseys Hurrican and others, but I put them in a bowl and mixed them up to come of with my own original recipe.
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