Who has the right to say they have an original strain

[Mike Leonard]

Just wondering what you thought. This doesn't pertain to just blue dogs but who has the right to say they have and ORIGINAL strain of blueticks?


Think......THINK HARD......

[liontracker]

Maybe Elbert Vaughn?

Maybe there is no such thing...

[LCK]

This could get good LOL.

[powderhorn]

Define "original".. In my opinion, this is nearly impossible to consider without knowing what exactly "original" is... Is rocky-road an "original" icecream flavor? Or are no new flavors original since they all came from vanilla in the first-place?

[liontracker]

Kind of like Cameron bred, when it did not come from Del?

[Jeff Eberle]

Key word is strain I think when you take a dog that was bred to run coon. And bred and cull for 20 plus years. To excell at the game you run. That is your strain. Look at the Trigg,Running Walker & July They are Strains of the walker
Just my .02

[Majestic Tree Hound]

Was the Ped on the Right one of Vaughn's Start ???

[bignblu]

Just wondering what you thought. This doesn't pertain to just blue dogs but who has the right to say they have and ORIGINAL strain of blueticks?


Think......THINK HARD......

As a Bluetick man, I feel that I have retained much of the "original" real hound qualities, nose, voice, ability, tree power etc but hasten to refuse credit for "original strain'
My hounds go back to many of the original cross`s made by Elbert Vaughan and Jake sides, but along the way the O.O.Grant strain, as well as others, certainly shatters any right to purity to strain,
I have great praise for those early breeders who extracted the bluetick breed from a mongrelized past. It was brilliant, my hats off to them and take no credit for thier toil or wisdom---but I sure am pleased that I was able to obtain some bedrock hounds from them.

Bob Mattscheck

[Brady Davis]

I may be wrong but I'd guess anyone who TRULY has originall dogs may not speak our language! They may be on another site www.chien-courant.com


oui, oui ou non, non?!

[B-N-Trees]

Gascon French Hounds... goes back to some real roots.

[Brady Davis]

Gascon French Hounds... goes back to some real roots.

Exactly

[liontracker]

So Mike, what's your opinion on this?

[pegleg]

by original are you referring to the first bluetick hounds? I didn't read the question that way. I would define original as the first group that deviated from their direct ancestors in one or more very obvious ways. and bred true to this variance until a outcross was made. this has a small bearing on a topic i have been thinking about. cameron hounds, my hat is off to the man for creating or maintaining these hounds however you look at it. they have a lot of qualities I find pleasing. but I can't describe them as true cat dogs as a strain. I know this will cause hate mail etc. but most aren't. everyone I've hunted behind preferred bear/coon to cat. I am not saying they wont make good cat dogs but they will pick a bear trail if given their choice in my experience. I haven't hunted behind a lot of them but the few i have had gave that appearance. maybe there is a few in there that prefer cat from the start and if thats the case I'd love them. any way the first breeder who got blue dogs that preferred tree game to running game deer etc. started the orginal generic blue strain. but history tells us this trait was breed into all the hounds ( - plotts) before they were divided into colors then further changed physically and in some other traits. so maybe it belongs to the first pot hunter who got his foxhound to tree and bred for that trait.

[Brady Davis]

So Mike, what's your opinion on this?

+1

[Bluefloyd]

I would have to say that the blue dogs on my place are "ORIGINAL" Hennessy hounds. Oh sure I have taken the genetics from Cameron and Caseys Hurrican and others, but I put them in a bowl and mixed them up to come of with my own original recipe.
I have never fried chicken and served it a KFC bucket and tried to pass it off as the Colonel's. If you expect KFC then buy it directly from the Colonel.
Wow I must be hungry.