Cameron hounds versus others?

[Liv2Hunt]

Who's running hounds with Cameron blood?

Is there a better proven bloodline for big game?

I see lots of Smokey River and Hammer bloodlines in the Blue Ticks from the Southeastern states. Anybody using them for lions?

Any specific breed or bloodline that is preferred for lions?

Any advice/opinion is certainly appreciated. Thanks

[Roofrunner]

Hey Brett, is that you.

[Boozer]

I know of lots of guys that run camerons and for the most part they are a good lion dog if you get the right breeding but every cameron i ever ran with or heard about just gets smoked by the good ol blood breeding of the walkers. I haven't seen a cameron put a bobcat up the tree by itself that i have hunted with yet. Most the walkers i have run with are faster and have a little more grit then the camerons but that is just my two cents. You will have guys that lean more on the Camerons side and you will have guys that lean more on the Walkers side. I have personally owned both and i have a cameron pup from jim harrell right now and my walker pups just have come along alot faster then the cameron pup. Good luck on the feed back of this one.

[Spanky]

Camerons come right from here in Stevensville Mt. if you are actually getting a true Cameron from Del himself. As for being the best... my answer would be no.

Trying to say they are the best is like trying to single out one line of walkers to win the world hunt. There are many blueticks from many strains that are just as good.

The Cameron strain seems to be getting promoted alot for its big game abilities but I have hunted with several of them and have also hunted with Smoky River, Vaugn and Sebastian and depending on terrain and athletic ability not to mention nose and brains and everything else out there none of them are any better or worse then the other.

Its all promotion and personal preference. I like Bozo/clover walkers for big game and there are others that will swear by stylish harry or sackett jr. Its all personal preference....hunting with just one is not a good way to judge a whole line or breed. Do your homework and run with a bunch if possible.

[Melanie Hampton]

Its all personal preference....hunting with just one is not a good way to judge a whole line or breed. Do your homework and run with a bunch if possible.

That right there is the answer.. You might like a totally different style dog then I do.. Doesn't mean mines better then yours, or yours are better then mine.. Just we like different things.. So basing your decision on people's opinion might not be the best thing

Look at being what is run around you.. Hunt with it.. see what you like..

I have seen quite a few people who really like their Cameron dogs.. I can count on one hand the number of one's I know used as a bobcat dog... Most I have seen are on coon and bear..

[Boozer]

Spanky very well put i mean there is those blue tick freaks and those walker freaks and there is those who run both like ladycathunter but i have done my homework and run with lots of camerons and walkers and i am like you spanky i like to run walkers cause just like ladycathunter said she can count on one hand the number of camerons that people are using to run bobcats and i love to run bobcats from time to time. I prefer the sackett line a little more but none the less. Camerons for the most part are just not fast enouf to put lots of pressure on a bobcat. I have watched many camerons try to catch them but it is kinda like watching a tortuse trying to catch the hair. A good friend of mine Bob Marosok of Wyoming has a cameron from Jim Harrell about 4 years old and he is a walker freak. It is an awesome lion hound but when it comes to bobcats you might as well leave him in the box. Your more then welcome to come run with me and my hounds Liv2Hunt if you get over that cold you got anytime you would wish. But just to give you a hard time how many lions have you seen under those cameron hounds your buddy has from Belt?

[bluedogs]

i wouldnt say that all cameron dogs are slow, it just depends on what the person breeding likes i got mine from a guy that likes speed in his dogs, i have seen big big cameron dogs and i have also seen little petet (sp) ones. i hunt mine on bobcats i have 2 blues and a walker. and they all do real well on bobcats, i think its just like walkers you have your big slower ones and then you have the small fast ones, you just have to look around see who is breeding what you like in a dog and go from there.

[Dan Edwards]

I know nothin about Camerons but am glad the last guy pointed out that there are some smaller ones that can actually move. The ones I have seen were way way to big and houndy in my personal opinion to be able to move worth a damn. I guess ya learn something everyday. I never seen a small, quick acting one in all the photos I have seen.

[Melanie Hampton]

Liv2Hunt

Don't let the majority of us disappoint you on the Cameron dogs.. Find someone who has them and hunt with them.. See if you like them.. Then find somebody else who runs something different and try that..

We have a bluetick from back east, who I guess you could say is Smokey River/Utchman bred.. Nice dog.. But as for her nose... My coldest nosed dog is my little Walker female... Kind ruins the whole hype of the coldest nosed dogs are blue... and she is a small fast dog.. She keeps right up with the speedy Walkers I have..

You would just be surprised when you actually get out and hunt dogs, what you find... And what you have heard that isn't true, or you don't see it the same...

Boozer... I am a Walker freak It is the other half of my kennel who likes the tickers... but I am pulling him around quickly

[twist]

I have never owned a cameron hound and I am not color blind in hounds they can be green and if it catches bobcat consistantly I will hunt it. Although I do lean toward walkers. I have had buddies who have bought pups from Del Cameron a couple were making alright lion dogs but had short lives due to accidents and then I know of a coulpe guys getting pups from Cameron and they turned out shy they took them back got 2 more and they were also spooky shy eventually they were culled. Just passsing along my 2 cent.

[HoundDawg]

It can be a long and sometimes painful process finding the right kind of dogs that suite your style of hunting, what you are hunting and what kind of country you are hunting in.

I saw the word "speed" thrown out quite a bit in this thread but speed has nothing to do with lion hunting, in fact a fast dog is generally not much of a lion dog. Speed however has it's advantages elsewhere.

The kind of dogs I like might not suite you and others. It's not so much a breed thing, as it is what do you need for your kind of hunting... I used to run walkers, now me and my buddies make fun of walker guys. But if I came across the right walker, I would pounce.

My buddy used to run black and tans, now he runs blue dogs for the most part, an occasional red dog. But he'll tell you if he came across the right black and tan tomorrow he would pounce.

Worry less about breed, color and pedigree and look more at what kind of hunting you do, what are you mostly hunting and what kind of country are you running in... then try and find the kind of dog that will suite you and your hunting style.

People will always be quick to tell you what their preference is but good dogs are found in all breeds, colors, pedigrees, etc... Of course, so are the lousy ones.

It could be a long process of trial and error, or it could happen pretty quickly just depends. And we all learn as we go. A dog you get next year you might figure is the greatest dog on the planet. Ten years from now you might wonder how you ever caught anything with that piece of ****.

If you get the right Cameron dog, it will out run, out hunt and out last any walker dog in your area. Or if you get the right walker dog, it will out hunt, out run and out last any bluetick around. But don't be surprised if you run into a guy with a plott or a black and tan that hunts circles around your dog. Great dogs come in all shapes, sizes, colors and breeds.

Problem is there ain't too many of them around amigo. It can be a long and painful search waiting for the One. One thing I can guarantee you pard, it ain't going to show up on your porch and knock on the door, "Here I am, the answer to your prayers."

You'll have to go out and find him and give him a chance to be the answer to your prayers. Good luck and happy hunting!! If it were me, and it's not, I would find someone local that hunts the same country, and is successful at catching game consistently in your backyard, and see if he or she has any dogs for sale.

[Boozer]

Lady Cat Hunter thats good you got him on the swing of things.

[az_gogetem]

so what i should do is cross a cameron and walker and have the best of both worlds right?

[Smiley]

Hd said it "WHAT KIND " that is the biggest thing to remember and "what kind" comes in all colors and some lines have those "kind " more often but all colors and lines have plenty that will not be those "kind"
So first things first KNOW what 'kind " you want and then find those that are hunting those "kind " of dogs .

[Liv2Hunt]

Thanks for all the advise. I have thought about trying to run with somebody but this sport of hound hunting seems to be the most cut thoat sport possibly ever. I was once told before starting into this sport "it's a mean world on the roads to lion tracks". Until I found this forum I had only ever talked to two other houndsmen and they won't speak a word of lion or hounds with anybody. So far Boozer is the only person that has thrown the offer out there to run with him. Its always easy for somebody to say they have the best hounds but they also don't let anybody else run with them. Thanks for the advise you all have provided. This forum is great. Have a good evening.