At this point this is just a rumor, an aquaintence of ours that hunts the east side of Nevada says that NDOW has begun aerial gunning of lions in that area. He says he just flat ran out of lions and started asking around (and has the connections to ask) and it turns out they had been performing aerial gunning on the ranges he hunts. I know that NDOW had been wanting approval for this...I guess they finally got it? This has just been in the last month or so. Anyone know anything?
SICK! SICK! SICK!
Well lets just keep letting the mines strip the land and people build housing developments (all in winter and fawning range) but we'll blame all the deer kill on lions...those bloodthirsty worthless critters don't deserve to eat OUR deer!
I just heard that because of the good rains (= good forage) this year they are going to up the deer tags by 900. So they get one good crop of deer and decide to automatically prostitute them out instead of letting them gain a little toehold...but kill those friggin lions!
Did Nevada approve aerial gunning?
Re: Did Nevada approve aerial gunning?
I am not sure if NDOW is doing it. The agricultural dept. will do it if ranchers are complaining. Also, several groups are granted money from the Heritage Funds to call, trap, run, and aerial gun lions and coyotes. These groups like Nevada Alliance 4 Wildlife are getting 100k to take away YOUR lions. I try to let everyone know about this because they try to not advertise this. Its ridiculous.
Re: Did Nevada approve aerial gunning?
This is the first time I have ever heard of aerial gunning for lions.I wouldn't think that gunning lions from an air plane would be cost effective, much less successful. Gunning coyotes has always been a viable method to control population densities. However, lions and coyotes are completely different animals. Lions aren't as densely populated, don't travel or exist in the same terrain, and don't break and run as easily as coyotes. Are you sure that this isn't just rumors? I'm not trying to pick a fight or call anyone out, just don't see this as a successful means to control lion populations. Remember that the federal government had the same bounty system on grizzlies, wolves, lions, and coyotes. Only two of those animals were seriously affected by the bounty system. That tells me that one method doesn't necessarily fit all species.
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Re: Did Nevada approve aerial gunning?
Theres not a lot of heavy timber/brush in most areas of Nevada but there are still lions so they can get picked off fairly successfully that way. I'm sure they are shooting coyotes as well on the same runs.
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Re: Did Nevada approve aerial gunning?
motox_66 wrote:I am not sure if NDOW is doing it. The agricultural dept. will do it if ranchers are complaining. Also, several groups are granted money from the Heritage Funds to call, trap, run, and aerial gun lions and coyotes. These groups like Nevada Alliance 4 Wildlife are getting 100k to take away YOUR lions. I try to let everyone know about this because they try to not advertise this. Its ridiculous.
The Ag dept does Not aerial gun lions.They are licensed to gun coyotes and fox.
Lion , Bobcat and Bear are not permited.
If you have ever seen a lion from a plane, they hide under brush,trees rocks and would be next to inpossible to aerial gun. Plus most of their activities are done during the evening, night and early morning hours, which makes very poor conditions fro aerial gunning.
I know years ago there was a case where someone was accused of aerial gunning a lion (In Nevada)and they were doing a federal investigation because lions are not listed on the agreement for aerial gunning.
So I would have to say no, this is just a rumor more than likely someone pissed off cause he can't find a lion to run.
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Re: Did Nevada approve aerial gunning?
They may not be aerial gunning lions but there allowed to trap them.
Here is an email I recieved today. Look at the money they are spending.
Subject: Fw: NDOW Information Service: Wildlife Commission Approves $447,318 in Habitat and Predator Control Projects; Fawn Recruitment Leads to Increased Deer Quotas for 2010
To: NDOW@LISTSERV.STATE.NV.US
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 2:21 PM
Subject: NDOW Information Service: Wildlife Commission Approves $447,318 in Habitat and Predator Control Projects; Fawn Recruitment Leads to Increased Deer Quotas for 2010
Nevada Department of Wildlife Information Service
You are receiving this message as a customer of the Nevada Department of Wildlife. This message is intended only for the named recipient. If you have received this in error or wish to be removed from our distribution list, please reply to this e-mail or follow the directions listed on the following link to unsubscribe: http://www.ndow.org/subs/unsubscribe.shtm.
Stories included in this email are:
- Wildlife Commission Approves $447,318 in Habitat and Predator Control Projects
- Fawn Recruitment Leads to Increased Deer Quotas for 2010
WILDLIFE COMMISSION APPROVES $447,318 IN HABITAT AND PREDATOR CONTROL PROJECTS
The Nevada Board of Wildlife Commissioners awarded $447,318 in Wildlife Heritage Trust Fund dollars at its meeting in Reno Saturday, and also approved auction tag vendors for 2011.
Approved Wildlife Heritage Trust Fund Projects
The top ranked project for funding was the Nevada Department of Wildlife’s (NDOW) 2010-2011 Big Game Capture, Transplant & Monitoring Program, which was awarded $127,446 of the requested $143,312. This project provides funds to NDOW to conduct capture and transplant programs for bighorn sheep and antelope to enhance populations and replace populations that have been lost. The Commission directed staff to seek an additional $50,000 from Predator Funds for the project work, and to include a pre- and post -predator control activity on each transplant.
The Kelly Creek Water and Wildlife Protection Project, a water installation project in Eureka County submitted by Ben Zunino, was the second ranked project, and was awarded $9,269.
Third ranked was a project titled “Scientific Data Analysis of Factors Influencing Nevada Mule Deer Populations Over Time: Population Enhancement Study”, a project submitted by Patrick Maxon, Ph.D., of Maxell Global Technologies, which was funded $30,000.
Fourth ranked was the Jackson Mountains Mule Deer Protection for Unit 035, a project submitted by Cecil Fredi of Hunter’s Alert, and funded at $86,103.
The fifth ranked project was Sage Grouse Nesting Survival Wildlife Management Areas 6 and 7, submitted by Pat Laughlin, of Nevada Alliance 4 Wildlife, for $50,000. The project proposes to kill ravens in the area of Jackpot to reduce predation on sage grouse.
The sixth ranked project was Lion Depredation in East Range, Tobins, Stillwaters, Clan Alpines and Fish Creek Mt. Ranges, proposed by Mike Stremler. The project proposes to kill 10 mountain lions at a cost of $1,800 each.
The seventh ranked project was titled Monte Cristo #1, - Rebuild with Rail Fence, a water development project to benefit bighorn sheep submitted by Jelindo Tiberti of Fraternity of the Desert Bighorn, and funded at $20,000.
Projects ranked eight through 11 were all survey and maintenance projects in southern Nevada, all proposed by Jelindo Tiberti of the Fraternity of the Desert Bighorn, and all funded at $1,000 each.
The twelfth ranked project was titled Wildlife Management Area 6, a predator control project proposed by Nevada Alliance 4 Wildlife, Pat Laughlin, which was funded at $65,000.
Number 13 in the ranking was Regional Mountain Lion Tracking Collars, a project submitted by Kevin Lansford of NDOW, funded for $12,500, and finally, number 14 in rank was Disease Monitoring for the Conservation of Terrestrial Big Game Species in Nevada, a project submitted by Peregrine Wolff, veterinarian for NDOW, with $25,000 in funds.
Approved Project Extensions
In addition, four projects from previous years were also approved for extensions: China Camp Sage Grouse Habitat Enhancement, submitted by NDOW’s upland game biologist Shawn Espinosa, for $3,745, Sage Grouse Nesting Survival Wildlife Management Areas 6 & 7 submitted by Nevada Alliance 4 Wildlife’s Pat Laughlin, for $50,000; Increase Mule Deer Fawn Survival, an attempt to increase fawn to doe ratios by controlling predators, from Pat Laughlin for $113,200, Factors Regulating Wood Ducks in Lahontan Valley, by Nevada Waterfowl Association’s Chris Nicolai, for $3,745, and $50,000 for predator control for mule deer, by Cecil Fredi, of Hunter’s Alert.
Approved Auction Tag Vendors
The Wildlife Commission also approved vendors for the 2011 big game auction tags. Wildlife Heritage Committee recommendations had to be reevaluated after Safari Club International, Northern Nevada Chapter, rescinded that group’s request for auction tags.
As a result, heritage tag funds were allocated in the following fashion: Mule Deer: one tag to Mule Deer Foundation and one tag to Nevada Bighorns Unlimited-Reno; Pronghorn Antelope one tag to Pershing County Chukars Unlimited and one tag to the Nevada Waterfowl Association; Rocky Mountain Elk, one tag to Mule Deer Foundation and one tag to Nevada Bighorns Unlimited-Reno; Desert (Nelson) Bighorn Sheep, one tag to the Wild Sheep Foundation; California Bighorn Sheep one tag to Wild Sheep Foundation, Midwest Chapter; Wild Turkey two tags to National Wild Turkey Federation, Las Vegas Strutters, two tags to National Wild Turkey Federation, Silver Sage Chapter, and one tag to the National Wild Turkey Federation, Ruby Valley chapter.
Here is an email I recieved today. Look at the money they are spending.
Subject: Fw: NDOW Information Service: Wildlife Commission Approves $447,318 in Habitat and Predator Control Projects; Fawn Recruitment Leads to Increased Deer Quotas for 2010
To: NDOW@LISTSERV.STATE.NV.US
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 2:21 PM
Subject: NDOW Information Service: Wildlife Commission Approves $447,318 in Habitat and Predator Control Projects; Fawn Recruitment Leads to Increased Deer Quotas for 2010
Nevada Department of Wildlife Information Service
You are receiving this message as a customer of the Nevada Department of Wildlife. This message is intended only for the named recipient. If you have received this in error or wish to be removed from our distribution list, please reply to this e-mail or follow the directions listed on the following link to unsubscribe: http://www.ndow.org/subs/unsubscribe.shtm.
Stories included in this email are:
- Wildlife Commission Approves $447,318 in Habitat and Predator Control Projects
- Fawn Recruitment Leads to Increased Deer Quotas for 2010
WILDLIFE COMMISSION APPROVES $447,318 IN HABITAT AND PREDATOR CONTROL PROJECTS
The Nevada Board of Wildlife Commissioners awarded $447,318 in Wildlife Heritage Trust Fund dollars at its meeting in Reno Saturday, and also approved auction tag vendors for 2011.
Approved Wildlife Heritage Trust Fund Projects
The top ranked project for funding was the Nevada Department of Wildlife’s (NDOW) 2010-2011 Big Game Capture, Transplant & Monitoring Program, which was awarded $127,446 of the requested $143,312. This project provides funds to NDOW to conduct capture and transplant programs for bighorn sheep and antelope to enhance populations and replace populations that have been lost. The Commission directed staff to seek an additional $50,000 from Predator Funds for the project work, and to include a pre- and post -predator control activity on each transplant.
The Kelly Creek Water and Wildlife Protection Project, a water installation project in Eureka County submitted by Ben Zunino, was the second ranked project, and was awarded $9,269.
Third ranked was a project titled “Scientific Data Analysis of Factors Influencing Nevada Mule Deer Populations Over Time: Population Enhancement Study”, a project submitted by Patrick Maxon, Ph.D., of Maxell Global Technologies, which was funded $30,000.
Fourth ranked was the Jackson Mountains Mule Deer Protection for Unit 035, a project submitted by Cecil Fredi of Hunter’s Alert, and funded at $86,103.
The fifth ranked project was Sage Grouse Nesting Survival Wildlife Management Areas 6 and 7, submitted by Pat Laughlin, of Nevada Alliance 4 Wildlife, for $50,000. The project proposes to kill ravens in the area of Jackpot to reduce predation on sage grouse.
The sixth ranked project was Lion Depredation in East Range, Tobins, Stillwaters, Clan Alpines and Fish Creek Mt. Ranges, proposed by Mike Stremler. The project proposes to kill 10 mountain lions at a cost of $1,800 each.
The seventh ranked project was titled Monte Cristo #1, - Rebuild with Rail Fence, a water development project to benefit bighorn sheep submitted by Jelindo Tiberti of Fraternity of the Desert Bighorn, and funded at $20,000.
Projects ranked eight through 11 were all survey and maintenance projects in southern Nevada, all proposed by Jelindo Tiberti of the Fraternity of the Desert Bighorn, and all funded at $1,000 each.
The twelfth ranked project was titled Wildlife Management Area 6, a predator control project proposed by Nevada Alliance 4 Wildlife, Pat Laughlin, which was funded at $65,000.
Number 13 in the ranking was Regional Mountain Lion Tracking Collars, a project submitted by Kevin Lansford of NDOW, funded for $12,500, and finally, number 14 in rank was Disease Monitoring for the Conservation of Terrestrial Big Game Species in Nevada, a project submitted by Peregrine Wolff, veterinarian for NDOW, with $25,000 in funds.
Approved Project Extensions
In addition, four projects from previous years were also approved for extensions: China Camp Sage Grouse Habitat Enhancement, submitted by NDOW’s upland game biologist Shawn Espinosa, for $3,745, Sage Grouse Nesting Survival Wildlife Management Areas 6 & 7 submitted by Nevada Alliance 4 Wildlife’s Pat Laughlin, for $50,000; Increase Mule Deer Fawn Survival, an attempt to increase fawn to doe ratios by controlling predators, from Pat Laughlin for $113,200, Factors Regulating Wood Ducks in Lahontan Valley, by Nevada Waterfowl Association’s Chris Nicolai, for $3,745, and $50,000 for predator control for mule deer, by Cecil Fredi, of Hunter’s Alert.
Approved Auction Tag Vendors
The Wildlife Commission also approved vendors for the 2011 big game auction tags. Wildlife Heritage Committee recommendations had to be reevaluated after Safari Club International, Northern Nevada Chapter, rescinded that group’s request for auction tags.
As a result, heritage tag funds were allocated in the following fashion: Mule Deer: one tag to Mule Deer Foundation and one tag to Nevada Bighorns Unlimited-Reno; Pronghorn Antelope one tag to Pershing County Chukars Unlimited and one tag to the Nevada Waterfowl Association; Rocky Mountain Elk, one tag to Mule Deer Foundation and one tag to Nevada Bighorns Unlimited-Reno; Desert (Nelson) Bighorn Sheep, one tag to the Wild Sheep Foundation; California Bighorn Sheep one tag to Wild Sheep Foundation, Midwest Chapter; Wild Turkey two tags to National Wild Turkey Federation, Las Vegas Strutters, two tags to National Wild Turkey Federation, Silver Sage Chapter, and one tag to the National Wild Turkey Federation, Ruby Valley chapter.
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Re: Did Nevada approve aerial gunning?
I'm glad this all came up PLEASE DO SOMETHING PEOPLE!!! Dont take this lieing down!!!! Here is a list of people to complain to about it. It may be like beating your head on the wall but try anyway!!
Contact info to complain about the Lion Depredation in East Range, Tobins,Stillwaters, Clan Alpines And Fish Creek Mt. Ranges, Proposed by Mike Stremler The project proposes to kill 10 lion at a cost of $1800 each.
To contact Governor Jim Gibbons go to gov.state.nv.us/Contact_Us.htm or call (775-684-5670) (702-486-2505)
Nevada Wildlife Commission Contact info
Chairman DR Gerald A. Lent O.D.
ndwcinfo@ndow.org
(775-852-4636)
Vice Chairman Scott Raine
scott@scottraine.com
(775-237-7064)
(775-318-0506)
Thomas Cavin
nbwcinfo@ndow.org
(775-720-2470)
Michael Mcbeath
ndwcinfo@ndow.org
(702-401-1848)
Daryl Capurro
dcapurro@chart.net
(775-852-7161)
(775-742-8368)
(775-852-6343)
Pete Mori
ndwcinfo@ndow.org
(775-756-6553)
Charles Howell
how7char@aol.com
(702-561-0928)
Grant Wallace
ndwcinfo@ndow.org
(775-572-3154)
Contact info to complain about the Lion Depredation in East Range, Tobins,Stillwaters, Clan Alpines And Fish Creek Mt. Ranges, Proposed by Mike Stremler The project proposes to kill 10 lion at a cost of $1800 each.
To contact Governor Jim Gibbons go to gov.state.nv.us/Contact_Us.htm or call (775-684-5670) (702-486-2505)
Nevada Wildlife Commission Contact info
Chairman DR Gerald A. Lent O.D.
ndwcinfo@ndow.org
(775-852-4636)
Vice Chairman Scott Raine
scott@scottraine.com
(775-237-7064)
(775-318-0506)
Thomas Cavin
nbwcinfo@ndow.org
(775-720-2470)
Michael Mcbeath
ndwcinfo@ndow.org
(702-401-1848)
Daryl Capurro
dcapurro@chart.net
(775-852-7161)
(775-742-8368)
(775-852-6343)
Pete Mori
ndwcinfo@ndow.org
(775-756-6553)
Charles Howell
how7char@aol.com
(702-561-0928)
Grant Wallace
ndwcinfo@ndow.org
(775-572-3154)
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Re: Did Nevada approve aerial gunning?
Liz ODell wrote:At this point this is just a rumor, an aquaintence of ours that hunts the east side of Nevada says that NDOW has begun aerial gunning of lions in that area. He says he just flat ran out of lions and started asking around (and has the connections to ask) and it turns out they had been performing aerial gunning on the ranges he hunts. I know that NDOW had been wanting approval for this...I guess they finally got it? This has just been in the last month or so. Anyone know anything?
SICK! SICK! SICK!
Well lets just keep letting the mines strip the land and people build housing developments (all in winter and fawning range) but we'll blame all the deer kill on lions...those bloodthirsty worthless critters don't deserve to eat OUR deer!
I just heard that because of the good rains (= good forage) this year they are going to up the deer tags by 900. So they get one good crop of deer and decide to automatically prostitute them out instead of letting them gain a little toehold...but kill those friggin lions!
I love it...
A Californian telling Nevada (or any other state for that matter) how to run a state...
Oh,, and by the way,,, the majority of those houses that are being built belong to Californians.
I suggest that you worry about cleaning up your own mess before you start berating Nev...
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Re: Did Nevada approve aerial gunning?
I'm sitting on top of the highest vantage point around, looking at two different mines. They aren't really taking up that much ground. Ha and considering the fact that I see at least 10 deer on accident. I don't think this small area is really affecting our entire deer population. Its just like with the sheep. Yeah numbers are down. That's how it works. Rise and fall. They will get over it. The lion thing is a different story. That bullshit if they are. Even though I assume it would be a lot harder to find and effectivly harvest a lion from a plain.
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Re: Did Nevada approve aerial gunning?
WILDLIFE COMMISSION APPROVES $447,318 IN HABITAT AND PREDATOR CONTROL PROJECTS
After reading, it appears like a bunch of Animal Mercenaries getting paid to kill?