aggressive males

[robbyson99]

i know what most will respond with to this but im looking for a different answer. maybe an answer i want to hear i guess. is there a way to stop a male from becoming aggressive with other males. i dont want to shoot him. im not going to cull him. hes my only running dog right now and those are not options. i havent had him around very many dogs so i dont know the reason for this. i do know the male hes been aggressive with has had a female with them that was in heat or is at the end of her heat or i dont know. my male was trying to jump her a month ago and both males are still trying to jump her. ive taken him around a few other males and he got a little growlly but didnt want to rip them up. hes fine around all females thats hes been around. he was fine with this other male when it was a pup. it may be just because the female is still in heat. but it was over a month ago when my male was all over this female. this week both males were still all over her. how stinkin long do you need to seperate males and females if shes in heat? is there a way to stop this or just dont run him with other males? or will it just get worse? hes 3 1/2 now. he is part of my family and will not take the drastic measures that most would. i also thought that maybe he will just have to run by himself on cats. i just dont know what to do. i have so many high points of my hound hunting career but this is a low one. im taking him to west virginia this up coming weekend to run bear for a month and im gonna be stressed all month wondering if my dogs been fighting with every dog down there. to sum it up hes a very dominant and independent male! whats my solution.

corey

[Mike Leonard]

Well Corey my man you are not doing him, or yourself any favors. If you are hunting with any old time hound guys you most likely will get sent home if he starts a fight or you might get you butt whipped if they ask you and you say yes I knew he was aggresive. Maybe you are not cut out for this game. This is a gentelmen's sport but you better be man enough to man up and not wimp out because you don't want your puppy spanked.

Son I don't mean to be harsh but these are the cold hard facts of life for a dog man.

You better well know that it is not going to be about this dog when you are down there it is going to be all about you. Make the best of it!

Bottom line is fighting dogs woll not be tolerated: if you do hunt one dog by yourself as you said and have fun!

[George Streepy]

I have to agree with Mike. I tried to cure one but it ended up being a waste of my time. Some dogs just have their wires a little crossed. On the other side of it, I had a buddy with an aggressive male. One time he showed up with that dog and said everything would be fine. He turned that dog in as my dogs were trailing, that dog came out of the box, flew across the clearing and nailed one of my males broadside. I haven't hunted with him since. He is a real nice guy but to attached to a problem. His aggressive dog died some years back, still haven't hunted with him.

[robbyson99]

i dont take offense to any responses but i will say this. i am cut out for this sport and will always have hounds. i have flat out pounded my male for doing stupid shit. "puppy spanked" i will not shoot my own hound so i guess i am a wimp. im fine with that. i will just have to run him with females if theres no solution to the problem. hes not aggressive with females or males if the female isnt in heat. maybe ill just leave him home instead of going to west virginia. thats fine too. thank you very much for the response.

corey

[twist]

If you are going to commit and say you are keeping him and then say you will just have to hunt him by himself you better do just that and not hunt him on bear or any other critter with someone elses pack as I would do just what Mike has said and most would. you will end up loosing a hunting partner real fast and your hound also. my thoughts are cut him and see if that seems to help if not do as you say and hunt him alone and do just that! In all my years of chasing hounds around I have yet to have that one special hound that if I had to hunt it by itself I would do just that as I enjoy HOUNDS and hunting buddies not just one hound.

[LarryBeggs]

Corey, I agree with these guys.If you cant break him of it you cant hunt him with other males.I have lost two dogs through the years under bear trees from dog fights.one was even a female.But you might try cutting him.Try taking him out of the box and shocking him for even the slightest growl.Not being there we dont know how bad the problem realy is.There is hardly a male out there that hasnt growled at one time or another.But it is absolutely not to be tolerated.It sounds like he growled at more than just your friends two dogs.If your friends dogs are still trying to ride that female she may have some problems.I have seen a couple females that wouldnt come out of heat and had to be fixed.I sure woulnt send him some where to be bear hunted until you were certain the problem was gone.Its not worth all the hard feelings. Good Luck, Larry

[robbyson99]

Thanks guys. I understand it can't be tolerated. That's why I posted this. I am going to commit to what I said and just not run him with males. And I'm not going to take him to west virginia with us. All the guys I hunt with have ALL females except that ONE other male. My male is fine with all females so I will not be loosing any hunting partners and won't be hunting him alone. I hunt with friends and believe if they didn't want me to run my male with them they would tell me. He's only fought once with a male and that was last night. I appreciate the help and I think ill be getting him cut right off. I didn't mean to sound bitter towards you mike. Sorry if it sounded nasty. Again thanks for the responses. Corey

[Jordan Run Walkers]

You can try cuttin him but I wouldn't dare hunt him with other males. There have been a lot of friendships lost over an aggressive dog. Especially when the owner knew the dog was aggressive to start with.

[kordog]

i would fix him and go from there . running him with other males just isnt an option . after fixing him he should be on probation after that to until he can be supervised with other males with no problems over a period of time . good hunting dogs are just to valuable to have them tore up and ruined .the game animals are the only thing that better be leaving a mark on your hounds.i know a guy here in maine that has a fixed plott male that he still can only run females with ,so it didnt cure him . another guy i know cut one of his walker males and it turned him into a gentleman so it depends on the dog .sooner or later your gonna run into other hounds in the woods so you should cure this problem whatever it takes. jmo

[robbyson99]

Ok. I have another question. I recently purchased my female. A month ago I guess. I put her and my male into the same kennel. By doing that, would that maybe be the reason he's becoming protective around females? He has never done this till I got my female so maybe I created the problem. He's always been on a chain until I got the female

[nmplott]

it could just be a set of hormones that were unleashed and the effects could be permanent, it is possible that his new kennel mate initiated this cascade of hormones but it is unlikely that effects would be short lived considering all that was posted. It sounds like you may just have to cut your losses. It is just as easy to feed a mean dog as it is to feed a good dog. Think about what you like about this dog and see if you can find another dog with these characteristics.

[Big Mike]

Have you got him cut? Bout the only way ive been able to stop growly males. I had a male the same way. To good to cull but the older he got the worse he was getting. Got him cut as a 5 yr old stopped all the problems

[robbyson99]

He's getting cut thursday morning. He's not making the west virginia trip

[George Streepy]

Robbyson99,

I am glad to hear your not getting offended. I wish you the best. I have a dog at my house that I have kept for almost ten years now. Eight years ago I gave up on her as a hunting dog. I couldn't get myself to cull her. It has nothing to do with how dedicated you are to the sport or how much of a man you are. Some dogs don't deserve it. If I have a dog that is good natured I will find it a home. I pay to get it fixed and it gets sold as a pet. It is not the easy way to go. I have a bunny hugger of a sister that helps me with relocation.

Aggressive dogs are where I draw the line. I am not their biggest fan to say the least. I was at a tree with a buddy last year. One of my young dogs tore into a buddies dog. I tied her off. It wasn't two minutes later and the mother of my young dog tore into the same dog of my buddies. I was embarrassed. The friend of mine had been around my dogs enough to know it wasn't normal. I don't know why they didn't like that certain dog. I haven't had a problem since. And I am not going to wipe out half of the good dogs in my pack over one incident. But I will get rid of them if it continued.

I wish you luck. Keep a close eye and hopefully it doesn't happen more.

[robbyson99]

He's a great dog in my book. I will hunt him with females. If anybody wants to hunt with us and they have males I'd rather leave him home and hunt with good guys and save him for another day. If he didn't hunt and was doing this I'd still keep him. Its just my personality I guess. I can eat out of his dog dish if I had to. Thought a few times I was gonna have to eat with him in the kennel haha. Either way I appreciate all the responses. He's getting fixed thursday morning. I was gonna breed him but will not make a cross with him acting like he did. Thanks for the help. Corey