iam looking for a pen to run my walker pups

[grouse]

Kordog , i did'nt generalize nothing it's like taking a top lightweight fighter and a top heavyweight fighter in my opinion, and putting them in the ring together we know whose gonna come out on top . So what you guys are saying is theres no reason to have a running dog because a treedog will do the same job ? I respectively disagree . What would make your friends dogs go silent ? Don't understand . Don't the Clays use running dogs ? I would think if the treedog was the answer they would use them with their vast knowledge of the houndworld , but who knows . I'm open to all comments on this subject but i'm not gonna change my mind . I use treedogs for what they were bred for and i use running dogs for what they were bred for . I guess i'm just stuck in my ways .

[briarpatch]

"Running" type of dogs are best for "running" type of game ie. coyote, fox and bobcat. Come hunt dry ground and you will find out.

briarpatch

[kordog]

they go silent cause there chickenshit and want to hear if there close to the game they dont want to get to close . it has happened alot to the running dogs after there chased out of the woods .the treeing dogs arent getting chased out of the woods thats the statistics around here anyway . so the guys downeast will keep on catching bobcat and coyote with there lightweight treedogs . my dogs are bred for bear , but they do excellent for those guys ,so why should they be dissapointed ?pretty narrow minded to think there arent certain lines of treedogs that can shit and get and that is my opinion !you need a good treedog for cat here in maine also .call scott strout and ask him 1 207 483 6161 .

[grouse]

Kordog ,i believe you have good dogs , don't get me wrong , but what are you guy's running that would put fear in those dogs? Our running dogs will fight with the best . If mine would act the way your describing i would be comming back with one less dog . And i'm not narrow minded, like i said there are beagles that will chase a yote , if that what works for you then go for it , i'll stick with my chickenshit runners just the same , in my narrow minded opinion it's like taking a workhorse to the kentuckey derby it may get around the track, but painful to watch .

[kordog]

paired up coyotes that turn on the dogs . and theres nothing painful about watching treedogs catch coyotes and bobcat not just run them.

[kordog]

so if one of your running dogs decides to tree does that make it a slower dog . you also shouldnt hunti like the clays do for bobcats because there running dogs and bobcats tree according to what your saying quote i use running dogs for what there bred for and treedogs for what there bred for. the clays seem to do fabulous despite what your saying. i guess bears ,bobcats ,and mountain lions are slow game .

[grouse]

Some bobcats tree and some don't , thats why some guy's run both together for cats , if your dogs cowar when their fighting with a coyote time for a new one . Are your tree dogs full blooded or are they mixed with runners? Don't know why your upset, if you like using what you got go for it .Theres no way you will convince me otherwise . I have a video i would like to send you of runners fighting with a coyote if your interested . Won't see no chickenshit dogs there .

[kordog]

it isnt my dogs that are cowards its the guys using running dogs that are having the problems . also days the running dog guys cant get a coyote even jumped the treeing dogs are cold trailing them up and making it look easy . im not upset in the least just having a conversation with ya . treeing walkers are derived from running dogs so the answer is yes . my line is grade nance because bear hunters didnt keep up with papers and a line bred yadkin river champ male for stud crossed . a slow beardog just has no place here . even though a coyote is no slouch you have to admit it takes more dog to fight a bear .how many tree dogs have you seen run coyote? ive seen both .im not trying to change anyones mind you are by starting out with you might be dissapointed running treedogs on coyote . im just stating facts . i have also seen plotts that weigh about 45 lbs and built like greyhounds that would show you something . fast hounds are fast hounds it doesnt matter if there a strain of treehound .im partial to a dog that can get it done not a dog that is labeled . the croghan dogs have some treedog in them for a reason .

[grouse]

The post started out with Daisyshooter saying he had treeing walkers , as far as plotts go i've never been around them . I'm sure my treeing walkers would do fine on coyote , but not as good as my running walker or the ones i've been around . He likes to fight and won't back off on coyote and cat . As far as bear is concerned i have no experience with that so i have no comment , i really don't know what it takes to get a bear treed . I've had guy's tell me how great their dogs( coonhounds) are and how much money they were offered for them, and then when we go out and look at five or six empty tree's i just wonder if my standards are set a little higher then they should be ,but i know better . I'll try to get a picture of my running walker on here he is also built like a greyhound . But as far as the history of the running walker goes they have stood the test of time .

[kordog]

they should turn those failed treedogs into coyote hounds then they will have no need to tree walking in to an empty bear tree that takes two hours to get to ,well just how many times do you think a bear hunter is gonna do that ? not many i wanna tell ya .i expect just as much if not more out of my tree hounds as you do your running dogs, cause they have to tree and do it right. which isnt necessary for coyote.

[grouse]

I think if they were mine i would turn them into plantfood . I expect my treedogs and runningdogs to finish what they started if not i'm not a very happy camper . Do they ? not all the time , but they do the majority of the time .

[kordog]

the truth is there are treehounds doing just that on coyotes . finishing what they start . i think i know what kind of plant your fertilizing ,and thats ok grouse i have friends that smoke that shit. good luck with that running dog blindness ,if its anything like glaucoma that stuff your smoking will help

[grouse]

When i used to smoke that shit it mellowed me out enough that the slower dogs never bothered me , but now that i get hyped up on redbull i need a dog that is also supercharged

[kordog]

i see grouse you have to give them red bull to keep up with those treeing walkers

[grouse]