Has anyone treed a bear with just one dog?

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Dude, you don't like hearing a single dog with a booming bawl mouth start a cold track,heat it up,turn it into a jumped race and then listen to him locate and start treeing ? That right there is sweet music my friend.How many bears have you caught with just your two dogs ?
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were we hunt at it is all thick mountains, your dogs get over a ridge and you are not going to hear them anyway. i have had my dogs on the garmin showing them to be only 400 to 500 yards away and you cant hear them, yeah its nice to hear them working in unisen but that is not always the case. about the only time i get to hear the dogs is when we strike and turn them out, after less than 5 minutes you dont hear them again unless the bear happens to be coming back your way or you can find a way to get close to them. you just sit watch the garmin wait till it shows treed and go after the dogs. very rarely do we get to hear a full race unless it is a super short one, and arround here our bears like to run
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Trueblue wrote:Dude, you don't like hearing a single dog with a booming bawl mouth start a cold track,heat it up,turn it into a jumped race and then listen to him locate and start treeing ? That right there is sweet music my friend.How many bears have you caught with just your two dogs ?


Nope, already said twice what I like to hear. If I only had one dog to listen to, which I did at one point then ya but f-that follow the leader bs.Unless its young dogs or cuple got turned lose later or theres some commonsence reason why.As far as how many not many I consiter my dog good swamp dogs there crazy for the aqua hair's.But last season we some how had some luck :mrgreen:

ferjr wrote:were we hunt at it is all thick mountains, your dogs get over a ridge and you are not going to hear them anyway. i have had my dogs on the garmin showing them to be only 400 to 500 yards away and you cant hear them, yeah its nice to hear them working in unisen but that is not always the case. about the only time i get to hear the dogs is when we strike and turn them out, after less than 5 minutes you dont hear them again unless the bear happens to be coming back your way or you can find a way to get close to them. you just sit watch the garmin wait till it shows treed and go after the dogs. very rarely do we get to hear a full race unless it is a super short one, and arround here our bears like to run


That sucks bro.But theres some thick chit over here too bubba, I mean who likes doing the back stroke through poison oak :cry: Man weres that dang kemp huntin I seen his vids looked some open country were was he at?

Thats why I don't care if they make the garmin legal or not I fill like it would me lazy and hunt only out of my truck when I was tought to stick with them roads or not, where ever them dogs can go I can go.
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I knew you were inexperienced and talking out of your ass because you don't have a clue what goes on in a lot of bear races.When you put together a pack of bear dogs not all of them are going to be the same speed especially after 4 or 5 hours on a bear.Some dogs are just supreme athletes and tend to get out front in those types of races.That's just the way it is.
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that is 100% correct trueblue! thats the kind of info he would know had he ever used a garmin. LMAO. as far as were mike kemp was hunting in the video you saw, radar, if it showed alot of open country, it obviously wasnt anywhere i have been hunting :lol:
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Ok you guys are better.
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radar wrote:Ok you guys are better.


Not better, just different.I've seen your pictures and read your posts and I am positive your dogs would make mine look like chumps in the coon woods.I would defer to your knowledge when it comes to hunting coons in the swamp lands but not when it comes to bears.I've done it for too long and I hunt harder than anyone I know.What I know I've learned from spending thousands of hours chasing bears with my own hounds.
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i agree with just different.

ive never hunted outside of eastern NC and from all the bear hunting stuff i have read on hear, other websites and in books and magazines and seen in videos, there arent any other places similar to bear hunting in eastern NC except maybe georgia or parts of florida. even the areas of NC other than the coastal plain are nothing like hunting here. i sure dont think our dogs would do as good as your dogs where you hunt and i know dogs from other climates and elivations dont usualy run as good here as our dogs do.
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I didnt read all the earlier posts on this subject so excuse me if I am repeating someone. I have talked to quite a few guys in the last year or so that are running Garmins. Real eyeopeners. They are many times finding that they have dogs that are treeing bears solo but they just never knew it.
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yeah, if your not using a garmin, you really dont know what your dogs are doing. a garmin is a lie detector for your dogs. it will let you know which dogs are the fastest which dogs are running the trail or just running off the sound of the other dogs, and it will also hep you locate your dogs quickly, which is pretty important here in idaho were we have these dang wolves, when your dogs are on tree if you dont find them quick chances are the wolves will. i personally wouldnt hunt without one. JMO.
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I ain't read most of this bullshit but yes one dog can/will and should do it alone. Whether you meant for it to or by accident. I don't think all bears tree. I do believe some bears tree on their own easier than others. Some just won't. I do expect my dogs to run, work and handle a bear by themselves to earn my yard as their final resting spot. Getting pickier than that to some degrees now too but they are more personality preference type of things. So yes they will consistently tree the bears that one dog is capable of treeing and stick with the walking and fighting bears alone long enough for me to have a chance to help them out in some way. As mentioned above though these dogs will split away sometimes with their own tracks from crossing them jumped and hot. That don't happen as often as splitting while trailing in feeding ground. They pile up like cows in the white oaks during the fall here. The first of the season the dogs will split like a covey of quail in these patches till the bear get scattered out. Also easy to recognize the rut with individual bear dog. You go from catching one a night in the summer to catching two or more. I don't run just one dog to hunt but I will run one dog by itself just for training (after a certain point in their life), for confidence (me and dog), or just to see if they meet the grade. If I'm doing it its under as controlled a situation as possible and help is usually waiting for them. My dogs know I'm coming at some point though alone or not. Just as sure as the sun rises I won't leave them hanging and they know it whether alone or not. So they stick waiting on me alone or not. They know thats what I expect and I know they expect to see me alone or not. JMO.
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Trueblue wrote:I knew you were inexperienced and talking out of your ass because you don't have a clue what goes on in a lot of bear races.When you put together a pack of bear dogs not all of them are going to be the same speed especially after 4 or 5 hours on a bear.Some dogs are just supreme athletes and tend to get out front in those types of races.That's just the way it is.


Trueblue,
You kind of want to harp on this guy for his opinion. I agree that some dogs are just plain better athletes, but the ones that are behind shouldn't be in another zip code. If they are, a guy should be looking for some other dogs to put with the good dog. I've seen quite a few of those "way out front" dogs get really thumped by catching solo without help in the vicinity. You can dodge that bullet a time or two, but it's not a fire I intetionally poke time after time, just to see how high the flames get.

As far as Garmin's go, I've got one and they are darn slick. But you still need a good dog to hang around it's neck. The guys who were good at reading dogs and who was doing what are still the same guys. The astros have just allowed people with less experience to figure things out quicker. It is a tooll that will re-enforce what you are already thinking is happening in there or squash your theory completely. I could tell before if a dog treed before others by hearing it lock down before the rest got there, now I can see it too. It's pretty hard for even a thick-headed dogger like me to screw that up.
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Nolte wrote:Trueblue,
You can dodge that bullet a time or two, but it's not a fire I intetionally poke time after time, just to see how high the flames get.



Nolte,
You don't want to believe that a dog can be good at catching bears all by itself without getting ate up and that is fine with me.I won't spend any time trying to convince you otherwise.The guy just asked the question...is it possible ? The honest,true answer is YES.I have done it many,many times with just one dog from truck to tree.As far as my comments to Radar,I was just trying to draw out whether or not his comments were based on experience or assumptions.I'm guessing that the guy who started this thread wanted to hear input from some people who had been there and done that.
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If I 'm talking out my arse then your poopin out your mouth. :lol: :lol: All I've heard on hear from you is that your dogs have done it many many times and any body can say that.my so called assumptions were based off commonsense cuz "Dude" were talkin about a bear and to me pound for pound a bear would win anyday.Ya it happends and it can be done but every time you put'em on the ground its a flip ogf a coin 1 or 5 dogs.JMO
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radar wrote:If I 'm talking out my arse then your poopin out your mouth. :lol: :lol: All I've heard on hear from you is that your dogs have done it many many times and any body can say that.my so called assumptions were based off commonsense cuz "Dude" were talkin about a bear and to me pound for pound a bear would win anyday.Ya it happends and it can be done but every time you put'em on the ground its a flip ogf a coin 1 or 5 dogs.JMO


Thanks for the reply there Radar.I needed a good laugh this morning. :lol:
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