Small Guns

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Is there any one out there that hunts with a 250/3000 I have used a old model 99 Savage for about fifty years and works wounders on deer sized stuff But I neaver hear or read about any one shooting one

Good luck with all you do

[powderhorn]

I was just looking at an old 250-3000 at a gun show a few weeks ago.. you don't really see them too much anymore. My father-in-law has several Savage 99's and loves them. His favorite was always the 250-3000 because they used to shoot everything from cottontail to whitetail with them.. He sold it a few years back though.. I'm in the same boat as you as far as knowing anyone who uses that caliber consistantly, but they are some neat guns.

[Mike Leonard]

The 250-3000 is one of my all time favorites. I have had numerous rifles in the caliber both stock and custom and loved them all. Remington came out with it in the Model 700 Classic some years back and I had one and kick myself for ever letting a person buy that and the same model in 257 roberts from me. I preferred the 250 to the 257 roberts because with bullets of less than 100 gr. the same velocites could be produced with virtually no pressure difference but the 250 Savage is and was inheritanly more accurate than the less efficient Roberts. At one time the 250-3000 and the 375 H&H were considerred to be several of the most inherently accurate cartidges avaiaible. I carried a Model 99 Savage take down model in the saddle scabbard on my cow pony for many years and no telling how many big mule deer, white tails and proghorns I rolled with this rifle it's magic if you will was nearly always fatal. I even knocked off some bigger critters with it and with a well placed shot it delivered the bacon. Today it is best known as the parent cartridge of the 22-250 but it is too bad some company like Kimber doesn't come out with it in their wonderful little 84 bolt gun. It would be a better rifle and fit then the 257 roberts they re-introduced. I love the roberts but once you stack it up against the 250-3000 with handloads off the bench you will see the superiority of the 250.

Our very own Shorty on this forum who is also on the Pro-Staff of Best of The West the long range tv shooting show is also a big fan of the 250-3000. He also has customized a few into the 250-3000 AI version and they crop numerous white tails and hogs every year on their south Texas ranch. As he says: ( It never fails).



If you ever have the opportunity to pick up the classic book. ( Shots at Whitetail by Larry Koller) , you will see his devotion to the 250-3000 and he proclaimed it the best cartridge avaiaible for hunting the white tail deer. Ofcourse this was before the craze age of big magnum rifles and scoped the size a Packard's muffler.
Still today for guys who hunt instead of just shoot this is a wonderful cartridge a true classic ( the first commercial cartridge to attain 3000 FPS hence the 3000 to it's name.) At one time the world record big horn sheep was taken with this cartridge and as old Jack OConner use to say the man that packs one is in good company and well heeled.

[ferjr]

my dad used to have one, a fine caliber.

[KnowItAll]

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Why would you use a 250-3000 when there are so many other good deer rounds available. Maybe 60 years ago it was a good round but with so many better loads available now, you should you should upgrade to the 257 weatherby or something more common and easier to find ammo for. Its hard to even get brass for the 250 if you reload, as far as the 99 i gave mine away because it was a piece of crap, you can keep them old savages....

[retired]

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Why would you use a 250-3000 when there are so many other good deer rounds available. Maybe 60 years ago it was a good round but with so many better loads available now, you should you should upgrade to the 257 weatherby or something more common and easier to find ammo for. Its hard to even get brass for the 250 if you reload, as far as the 99 i gave mine away because it was a piece of crap, you can keep them old savages....

Knowitall
Wish I had been around when you gave that 250 away I sure would have been glad to take it off your hands I might have even gave you a few bucks for it As for it being a pice of crap when I pull the trigger on mine two things happen it goes off and what you were shooting at gets hit if you do your part The last box of bullets I bought for it were 15.75 I don't know what a box 257 weatherby are but I think that I could safely say that they are a bit more then that And I wonder if you will be able to still be able to have the 257 shoot as well after 50 years But then in that amount of time they will have something that you think is better

Good luck

[KnowItAll]

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15.75 you must be shooting that crappy yellow and green stuff or just plane plinking ammo. Just looked online at cabela's brass for that cal. is almost 1.00 pr round, bag of 50 for $45 and thats the crappy yellow and green. I would put my wife's 243 against your 250-3000 any day and it is cheaper to shoot. She shoots a 75 gr vmax at 4200 fps lets see your 250 do that!






Bull calm down just busting your balls its hoss LOL

[retired]

The 250-3000 is one of my all time favorites. I have had numerous rifles in the caliber both stock and custom and loved them all. Remington came out with it in the Model 700 Classic some years back and I had one and kick myself for ever letting a person buy that and the same model in 257 roberts from me. I preferred the 250 to the 257 roberts because with bullets of less than 100 gr. the same velocites could be produced with virtually no pressure difference but the 250 Savage is and was inheritanly more accurate than the less efficient Roberts. At one time the 250-3000 and the 375 H&H were considerred to be several of the most inherently accurate cartidges avaiaible. I carried a Model 99 Savage take down model in the saddle scabbard on my cow pony for many years and no telling how many big mule deer, white tails and proghorns I rolled with this rifle it's magic if you will was nearly always fatal. I even knocked off some bigger critters with it and with a well placed shot it delivered the bacon. Today it is best known as the parent cartridge of the 22-250 but it is too bad some company like Kimber doesn't come out with it in their wonderful little 84 bolt gun. It would be a better rifle and fit then the 257 roberts they re-introduced. I love the roberts but once you stack it up against the 250-3000 with handloads off the bench you will see the superiority of the 250.

Our very own Shorty on this forum who is also on the Pro-Staff of Best of The West the long range tv shooting show is also a big fan of the 250-3000. He also has customized a few into the 250-3000 AI version and they crop numerous white tails and hogs every year on their south Texas ranch. As he says: ( It never fails).



If you ever have the opportunity to pick up the classic book. ( Shots at Whitetail by Larry Koller) , you will see his devotion to the 250-3000 and he proclaimed it the best cartridge avaiaible for hunting the white tail deer. Ofcourse this was before the craze age of big magnum rifles and scoped the size a Packard's muffler.
Still today for guys who hunt instead of just shoot this is a wonderful cartridge a true classic ( the first commercial cartridge to attain 3000 FPS hence the 3000 to it's name.) At one time the world record big horn sheep was taken with this cartridge and as old Jack OConner use to say the man that packs one is in good company and well heeled.

Mike
Thanks for info and thoughts about the 250 mine was made in 1939 and it has been well taken care of has the things that happen to hunting guns for sure but has not been abused in any way no matter what knowitall says you would neaver get mine but that is what makes the world go around

May all your days be bright

[ferjr]

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Why would you use a 250-3000 when there are so many other good deer rounds available. Maybe 60 years ago it was a good round but with so many better loads available now, you should you should upgrade to the 257 weatherby or something more common and easier to find ammo for. Its hard to even get brass for the 250 if you reload, as far as the 99 i gave mine away because it was a piece of crap, you can keep them old savages....

I didnt think a 257 weatherby was common! who would want one of those inefficent guns? have you actually looked at the reloading data for that? i would much rather have a 25-06, burns way less powder and is only 200fps slower. check the price of ammo. a 250-3000 kills just as dead as a 257 weatherby.

[KnowItAll]

ferjr
I did not say a 257 was more common.

[ferjr]

ferjr
I did not say a 257 was more common.

i must have misread your quote. finding brass for a 250-3000 isnt hard, midway has all you want at $28 per 50. also reloader can easily make brass from readily availible 22-250 brass.

[KnowItAll]

ferjr
Look at the ballastics on the 257 vs the 25-06 at 500 yards. The 257 with an 87 gr only drops 17 in. vs 40 in. with the same gr bullet at 500 yards. Do some research and dont look at muzzle velocity and you will see that the 257 Wty is the top of the food chain in the 25 cal.

[ferjr]

ferjr
Look at the ballastics on the 257 vs the 25-06 at 500 yards. The 257 with an 87 gr only drops 17 in. vs 40 in. with the same gr bullet at 500 yards. Do some research and dont look at muzzle velocity and you will see that the 257 Wty is the top of the food chain in the 25 cal.

i dont know what ballistic charts you have been looking at, but a 257 weatherby shooting a 87 grain bullet sighted in at 100 yards drops 34.4 inches at 500 yards. that is about 6 inches difference at 500 yards compared to the 25-06 with the same bullet, that is very minimal, not enough to amount to crap. at 500 yards with a 87 grain bullet it only has 848.25ft pounds of energy, hardly enough to be an efficient hunting round with that bullet at that yardage. now take a 270 shooting a 130 grain bullet at 500 yards, it drops about 40 inches but also has 1248 ft pounds of energy at the same range. the 257 weatherby burns almost the same ammount of powder that my 338 win mag. does, to do absolutely nothing. my 338 shooting a 225 grain bullet only drops 45 inches at 500 yards and has 2153 ft pounds of energy at 500 yards with about the same charge of powder, now to me the 257 weatherby is not a very efficient cartrige. i personally think a 257 weatherby is a terrible cartrige, it has short barrel life, extreme amount of muzzle blast and kick when compared to a 25-06, which will do the same, there is only 100-200 fps difference in the two, check the price difference on ammo or brass if you reload. now tell me how great is that weatherby. but anyway we have gotten off the original post, and in my opinion a 250-3000 is a fine hunting cartrige that is often over looked and the savage model 99 was one of the slickest lever guns ever built.

[ferjr]

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15.75 you must be shooting that crappy yellow and green stuff or just plane plinking ammo. Just looked online at cabela's brass for that cal. is almost 1.00 pr round, bag of 50 for $45 and thats the crappy yellow and green. I would put my wife's 243 against your 250-3000 any day and it is cheaper to shoot. She shoots a 75 gr vmax at 4200 fps lets see your 250 do that!


know it all, i think you need to smoke another one, your brain is obviously fried. a 243 with a 75 grain v-max only shoots 3400fps. check the hornady reloading manual, that is the max load for a 75 grain v-max. are you making all these claims up as you go? i am sure you are probably smarter than the guys at hornady and have the only 243 in the world that is capable of shooting those volocities.

[grouse]

KnowItAll , or maybe it should be KnowNothingAt All , if thats what caliber he likes to use and has success with why would it be a piece of crap ?