Dogos for Hogs

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Dogos for Hogs

Postby doghunter » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:18 am

I have a great line of American BullDogs with papers. we have had them in our family for years. we use to call them pits but now that has all changed. our dogs have alot of white and will not fight another dog, I can put 5 males in the box together and take a 3 hr trip with no problem.

we have always breed for a working dog. i like long legs a full muzzle and a close to even bite (but a under bite is ok and alot have them just not a slot machine)

i keep trying to find a good female to go to and everyone is now trying to breed for big slober headed 100 plus dogs. my males run from 85 to right at 100 pounds but dont look it, they are built right and can work with a horse all day.

as i look for a female I keep finding some ugly stock that look like a mastif or a boxer. but the DOGOS look pretty good.

most of the stock around my area of bull dogs is either related to mine or just to big or ugly.

anyone know of a good line of dogos that actually are hunted and culled the way they need to be. I am in florida .
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Re: Dogos for Hogs

Postby Pops » Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:54 am

honestly i don't think any american breeders are trying to preserve trailing ability.
there are plenty of good athletic ABs to be found but most are being trained in manwork. contact Mike at Steeltrap in TX. he doesn't breed ABs anymore but his stock is in good hands. Jay Dorsey at Trophy hunter's Lodge in SC should be able to point you toward some good bulldogs. Alan Scott is in AL under the kennel name Owl Hollow w/ some good stuff. Ralph C at white knight has placed a lot of dogs in hunting homes down into the carolinas & GA. that's all that jumps right to mind. let me cogitate a bit and i'll see what i can remember.
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Re: Dogos for Hogs

Postby jkcasey » Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:22 am

What are you trying to do with your ab's? From the sounds of it you have hit the mother load of Great catchdogs, no dog aggression, good build, it don't get any better than that, if the have a good prey drive, which is almost a given with bully breeds. It sounds like you have what most guys I know want in a lead in catchdog. If you are looking for trailing ability there is a guy on another site I look at that is running hogs with mostly Dogos. If this helps great, if not PM me when you have your next litter. http://www.xxxtremehogdoggin.com/huntho ... hdogs.html I know what his sight says but from what he's posted he is trying to use just Dogos from what I've read. You might get ahold of him and see, it can't hurt.
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Re: Dogos for Hogs

Postby nmplott » Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:58 am

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Re: Dogos for Hogs

Postby doghunter » Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:34 pm

thanks for the responses. I dont need anymore nose my bull dogs will wind and take a fresh track as most cur dogs in my area and if he breaks they will run by themself for around an hour. That is good because you usually get the hog but bad because sometimes they end up caught a long was from where you started and have to take some abuse while you get back to the truck and get around there.

i dont hunt my bulldogs on the ground unless i am catching out of open pastures. but I do like them to have the ability to do it if they need to.

I have one of my bull dogs that will now bay a bad hog if by himself until you get there and then catch I love him. but he will catch anything if you have another dog with him and it can be any dog it does not have to help.

recently i put him on a small hog that crossed the road and my hunting buddy put a dog with him to learn (a young bay dog) his dog did stay with my bull dog and they caught about 600 yards from the road. not much noise so i went in and he had a 200+ boar hog caught and the bay dog was standing about 15 yards back barking and could not even see the hog for the bushes he was caught in.

the next weekend i hunted him by himself trotting him down the road he left the road and went to the next block (over a half mile) and bayed a 180 # boar in some bad stuff when i showed up he caught as soon as he saw me. I now only hunt him by him self or use him as a lead in catchdog.

My other main american bull is straight catch all the time but he also will run miles if the hog breaks. There not the prettiest dogs but they work the way I like them to.
I like the looks of the heaver looking dogo not the skinny narrow headed ones but them again I know nothing about a dogo.


Thanks agin for all the info
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Re: Dogos for Hogs

Postby doghunter » Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:44 pm

jkcasey; that dog on the opening page you listed is as pretty a catch dog as there is. I dont like cropped ears but he is built right. I will try to contact them thanks for the tip.
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Re: Dogos for Hogs

Postby doghunter » Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:44 pm

I did contact http://www.xxxtremehogdoggin.com/huntho ... hdogs.html and the guy was very nice. he is raising bullgos (ab x Dogo). they sound great but are kind of pricey.
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Re: Dogos for Hogs

Postby bayhard1 » Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:25 pm

dont do it its not good as u would thank ive had two and they both where the same p.o.s they 2+ years old before they where good cd and they try to get there own hog to much leave them abs alone
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Re: Dogos for Hogs

Postby doghunter » Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:54 pm

bayhard1 thanks for the input. do you have any idea where i should go to get a good bitch or puppy to raise to breed to. my dogs usually start catching at 4-5 months but i now some ab start slower.

i want one built right so no health problems. Tight feet, decent bite not to much underbite, long legs (he can be wide but needs legs), good temperment (its ok if he guards the truck and yard but you should not have to worry about him biting someone unless they are somewhere they should not be), not overly big, (big is ok but not sloppy and able to work with a horse.) and must have drive to hunt and sence to listen.

I am trying to check on some of pops sugestions now. I am not in a real big hurry but dont want to lose my line before finding a bitch to breed to.
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Re: Dogos for Hogs

Postby bayhard1 » Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:52 pm

go to easttexashogdoggers and look under members for scott i run his line of abs i love my pits but he is a ab man but stay away from the dogo they r not worth it till they r 2+ years old
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Re: Dogos for Hogs

Postby bigboarstopper » Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:46 am

Mabye its my lack of knowledge on dogos but whats the difference between a dogo and and fast pitt?. I see the dogos can be quite expensive. I cant see myself spending money on a catchdog. I get mine at the pound.
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Re: Dogos for Hogs

Postby doghunter » Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:49 pm

bigboarstopper I agree with you there is nothing wrong with getting a little soldier from the pound. if you get a pit you can bet he will catch and since they are smaller they are easier to handle after the catch and dont get cut as much.

but i like a catch dog that listens and lets go on comand. those pits get green eyed once they catch. a good majority of my hogs are caught alive and to have a dog that will let go and stand in the back of a truck with tied hogs without trying to eat them just makes the hunt more enjoyable.

i also like a dog that wont fight. not all but most pits you dont want to leave unattended in the box with your bay dog. and nothing beats turning 2 catch dogs to a hog bayed in the open only 20 yards away and the dogs catch each other while you watch the big boar hog stand and watch a good dog fight.

I want to keep the drive and catch but loose the dog agression.
but i will state again no other dog likes a hog any better or can you depend on in a pintch anymore then a pit or staff bull terrier
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Re: Dogos for Hogs

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Re: Dogos for Hogs

Postby jkcasey » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:04 pm

Catch you later, Kiel “If what you did yesterday seems big, you haven't done anything today.” --Lou Haltz
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Re: Dogos for Hogs

Postby Scott » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:09 pm

Bayhard has been around a few Dogos.

The main problem with the breed is that there are only a handful of working breeders out there. Here in the States the dogs have been overbred strictly as pets. I've seen a few good ones (seen way more culls), but they are few and far between.

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