Advice for pulling a dog off tree?

[good ol boy]

Ive got a crazy female walker, Super strong! Im having a very hard time pulling her back up to the truck! the first 50 to 100 yards. Is almost impossible. Ive let her tree for a long time. Doesnt seem to change. Last time she was treed, I was tryen to pull her off and the bear came out! making it harder to get her headed in the right direction.
So we beat and pulled beat and pulled. Just want to know if there is a better way?

[bad moon]

i am having good luck with my more seasoned hounds usuing the tone button on my tri tronis. alot of training needs to be done prior to going into the field. my lead dog jacks will usually leave on my command now yet tree hard as ever until we leave. also never shock them to get them to come from the tree if they will not do it with the tone button alone then more work needs to be done away from the tree. jmo

[sheimer]

Well,

I'd say proper and prior preporation prevents piss poor performance. If you work on her handle and work on her focus on YOU, coming off a tree should be easier. She obviously isn't focused on you or what you want so I would use whatever means necessary to change her focus. I wouldn't start that process at the next tree, I would set up a scenerio that gives her the opportunity to focus on something else and then redirect it to you.

I'm not a pro at this, but there's my two bits.

Scott

[good ol boy]

Makes sence! thanks guys Ill give it more handle work.

[Redwood Coonhounds]

I agree work with her on handling, and having her know what she's supposed to do before hand...

My dogs all have an exellent handle on them. For young dogs, or times when they momentarily relapse, I hook the leash to the collar, then take it and go under there chest and cross it over the back, so that it makes a slip harness. Or you can do that around there neck too, so that it works more like a slip lead. I've never had one that didn't mind once I wrapped it around the chest. One good tug, and they give up.

[Patrick]

I remember my experiences pulling dogs off the tree many years ago, and having to drag them all the way back to the truck, and having to load them and switch areas so they wouldn't go back to the tree. All in all, I don't think I really enjoyed that part about getting jerked around the woods.
Over time, too much time, I finally figured out that those hounds were a lot smarter than I thought they were, and that I could start hunting smarter as well.
I found there is no reason those dogs shouldn't understand what I mean when I tell them we are done and it is time to walk away from a tree, without a leash. As someone previously mentioned, your chore is to convince them to focus on you instead of what they would prefer to be doing.
Start by putting a leash on them in one hand and a big limb in the other. As you walk away telling them it is time to go, reinforc that it is time for them to go as well. If a dog isn't getting the point, you aren't applying what he needs to understand. I have never had one that I couldn't get the point across to, and if I find one that stupid it will be a cull. Over time you will just work to where you don't need a leash or attention getter.
Occasionally one of my dogs will get really worked up at the tree and forget that they are done with the tree when I say they are done. Neither the dog or I enjoys it when I have to walk back to the tree to remind him.
Pat

[mike martell]

my ability to hunt is only because of tri-tronics. it took two major back surgeries with one going bad wrong leaving me without the use of my left leg. dragging / pulling/ fighting a dog is not an option. i tie my dogs back at all trees and spend the time enjoying life and cherish each time i make one more tree. i evaluate each situation and decide i'm hiking to the rig. if i have a issue calling a dog at first i lead them a short distance and turn them loose. if they even look back i hit the tone button. if that doesn't work i use what ever level of stimulation it takes to make a dog respond to my command....usally it takes no more than two or three on the dial. we walk out to the truck. i don't allow the dog to leave my line of sight and we make the truck. now it is up to five times longer than in my younger days.this is the best unit and 99% of the hunters don't believe it works. without tri-tronics.....i'm done hunting.

[kordog]

i will take her if shes to much dog for ya . whats her breeding by the way ?dogs with that kind of desire for bear dont come around everyday.

[Mountainhound]

Training thats how you stop that period. It is best to start when just pups, but obviously she's no pup anymore. So during feeding time let her settle into eating then tell her come lets go whatever you use, then drag her ass over to you with chain if tied out or add a long lease. Also if you let dogs run around in yard put a long lease on her and at times call her to you if she don't come drag her ass over to you. Also you will want to work her on heel I prefer a hound to walk behind me not beside me because in the woods where you go they follow instead of when next to you you go one way around a tree they wind up going the other. When doing this I like to give a tap on nose with lead when they try getting up beside or in front of me. Now that tap can be as hard as need be. I always carry enough leads with me but very seldom ever use them, Only when comming out to a road or alot of people. Train early and often these hounds are far smarter than folks give them credit for. Most mistake stubborness for being dumb nothing could be further from the truth.

[J HUNT]

I am a Walker man all the way and I to have hard tree dogs, but with yours you will have to correct just depending on the dog, some people will say never to shock a dog at the tree, some just lay the juice to them, your sounds like a little shock treatment would not hurt her any, will just have to find what works best for your dogs personality.

only other option is - if you don't want to have to pull a dog off the tree you might want to hunt another breed