dog is gone and possible wolf food
Why hunt the dogs if you don't give back what they put in?
Reed and Ladycathunter(who erased her last reply)you are no different than anybody else on this forum. You don't personally know me. Therefore you only know what I have chosen to post on here. You are entitled to your opinions but you should not be so quick to pass judgement based on what I have chosen to allow you to know when you don't know everything I have done.
When I have been unable to get back up there people are still looking. Two trappers drive the loop every other day checking traps and looking for my dog. I have given other houndsmen the freq on my collar so if they are up there they are also keeping thier eyes and ears open for me. Land owners,wardens,sheriff, gas station attendent, local bar, and several residents in the small town all know of the situation. When I have been up there I have stopped every vehicle and gave them my number, dog discription, last signal/where we last heard the dogs and drainage they were in. I also still have a kennel, food, straw, and blanket up there. The dogs were turned out on Friday 28th of December. It is now 14 Jan and several wolf tracks have been found no dogs and no signal since the 29th. 18 days have now passed. Now you tell me what the odds are. Yes I unleashed my dog and now realize it was a big mistake. Hind sight is 20/20 and I will probably never hunt that area agian.
If you think for a minute that I what to accept the fact that I most likely will never see this dog again you better think again. My family is not happy and neither am I. I have put several hundred dollars into looking for this dog and it has now also become a finacial burden on my ability to support my 2yr old, 5yr old and wife. My family is suppose to be first but that has not been the case since I turned the dog loose. I have put the dog first. It is now after 18 days of looking for the hound to put my family first again.
If you are gambling they say to quit while your ahead. It does not matter when I quit at this point because I have already been loosing and the odds are getting far worse with time. The weather up there this week is suppose to be high winds and snow. Now tell me that if we can get the plane up sometime MAYBE by the weekend that I can justify spending the additional money this late in the game and putting the safety of the pilot and myself at risk. This was my only hound and now I have lost a good dog, several hundred dollars, collar, pissed off co-workers, pissed off two bosses, my family and now my hound hunting is done. Now tell me that I am giving up on this dog. I would love to go back and change things but I cannot. I think that I have started to realize just what is the worst thing that can happen when you unleash the dogs. I don't like it but have accept it. There is a risk with everything in life.
If this poor experience of my has made anybody think differently or negatively of me than that I am sorry. Most importantly I apologize to the dog(Ginger) and my family for unleashing her that morning. It does not matter my intentions at the time because all that has mattered is the outcome.
When I have been unable to get back up there people are still looking. Two trappers drive the loop every other day checking traps and looking for my dog. I have given other houndsmen the freq on my collar so if they are up there they are also keeping thier eyes and ears open for me. Land owners,wardens,sheriff, gas station attendent, local bar, and several residents in the small town all know of the situation. When I have been up there I have stopped every vehicle and gave them my number, dog discription, last signal/where we last heard the dogs and drainage they were in. I also still have a kennel, food, straw, and blanket up there. The dogs were turned out on Friday 28th of December. It is now 14 Jan and several wolf tracks have been found no dogs and no signal since the 29th. 18 days have now passed. Now you tell me what the odds are. Yes I unleashed my dog and now realize it was a big mistake. Hind sight is 20/20 and I will probably never hunt that area agian.
If you think for a minute that I what to accept the fact that I most likely will never see this dog again you better think again. My family is not happy and neither am I. I have put several hundred dollars into looking for this dog and it has now also become a finacial burden on my ability to support my 2yr old, 5yr old and wife. My family is suppose to be first but that has not been the case since I turned the dog loose. I have put the dog first. It is now after 18 days of looking for the hound to put my family first again.
If you are gambling they say to quit while your ahead. It does not matter when I quit at this point because I have already been loosing and the odds are getting far worse with time. The weather up there this week is suppose to be high winds and snow. Now tell me that if we can get the plane up sometime MAYBE by the weekend that I can justify spending the additional money this late in the game and putting the safety of the pilot and myself at risk. This was my only hound and now I have lost a good dog, several hundred dollars, collar, pissed off co-workers, pissed off two bosses, my family and now my hound hunting is done. Now tell me that I am giving up on this dog. I would love to go back and change things but I cannot. I think that I have started to realize just what is the worst thing that can happen when you unleash the dogs. I don't like it but have accept it. There is a risk with everything in life.
If this poor experience of my has made anybody think differently or negatively of me than that I am sorry. Most importantly I apologize to the dog(Ginger) and my family for unleashing her that morning. It does not matter my intentions at the time because all that has mattered is the outcome.
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Spokerider
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Liv2Hunt,
You have done nothing to be ashamed of, nor should you feel ashamed or guilty of the events and outcome/s that have befallen upon you.
You sound like a sincere, honest intellegent person who has done well at balancing and prioritizing personal responsibilites as well as coping with your lost dog, probably better than most. Dogs will always be lost and killed in this hobby, such as it is. It just so happened that this was your turn, albeit an early baptizim into one of the more distessing facets of hounds and hunting.
I have yet to experince a lost dog and the personal turmoil that it'll be sure to bring. When my turn comes, I'll probably look here for support as you have done.
This is turning into a lengthy and ongoing thread, with the responses to your predicament being as wide and varied as members differing personalities on this forum. As can be expected with any internet-based dicussion, opinions and judgement abound. Try to take it for what it is, print. Nothing more. Ultimately, it must be you that is satisfied with your efforts and compromised acceptible losses. Things are what they are, of which you already know.
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You have done nothing to be ashamed of, nor should you feel ashamed or guilty of the events and outcome/s that have befallen upon you.
You sound like a sincere, honest intellegent person who has done well at balancing and prioritizing personal responsibilites as well as coping with your lost dog, probably better than most. Dogs will always be lost and killed in this hobby, such as it is. It just so happened that this was your turn, albeit an early baptizim into one of the more distessing facets of hounds and hunting.
I have yet to experince a lost dog and the personal turmoil that it'll be sure to bring. When my turn comes, I'll probably look here for support as you have done.
This is turning into a lengthy and ongoing thread, with the responses to your predicament being as wide and varied as members differing personalities on this forum. As can be expected with any internet-based dicussion, opinions and judgement abound. Try to take it for what it is, print. Nothing more. Ultimately, it must be you that is satisfied with your efforts and compromised acceptible losses. Things are what they are, of which you already know.
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Melanie Hampton
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Liv2hunt
I took my last repy off of here because I realized it probably was not right.. as in not knowing the full story..
BUT go back and read what you had previously posted up until this page. you left a lot of detail out that shows you actually tried more then a little to look for your dog... From the sounds of your previous posts you had given up on finding that dog from the get go..
You said.. that you dont' want to waste your money looking for collars and a carcass.. with what look to be little effort put into searching for that dog you can bet that rubbed people the wrong way..
You put effort into it.. I applaud you for that and I am sorry you lost your dog.. It sure the hell didn't look like that before that last post of yours.. It looked like you put a little bit into it then wrote her off... You get onto a public forum like this and you are opening yourself up to judgement of other people..
I took my last repy off of here because I realized it probably was not right.. as in not knowing the full story..
BUT go back and read what you had previously posted up until this page. you left a lot of detail out that shows you actually tried more then a little to look for your dog... From the sounds of your previous posts you had given up on finding that dog from the get go..
You said.. that you dont' want to waste your money looking for collars and a carcass.. with what look to be little effort put into searching for that dog you can bet that rubbed people the wrong way..
You put effort into it.. I applaud you for that and I am sorry you lost your dog.. It sure the hell didn't look like that before that last post of yours.. It looked like you put a little bit into it then wrote her off... You get onto a public forum like this and you are opening yourself up to judgement of other people..
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Bearkiller
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I'd say the fact that you don't have a signal is an indicator that the dog is alive. Although maybe in some hound hunters yard. Unless your wolves can eat tracking collars. Welcome to hound hunting. I don't know anyone who hasn't at some point made sacrifices for dogs. By putting their jobs on the line or wrecking a truck. It happens. Maybe it shouldn't but it does.
Don't buy the hype.
"Those who hammer their guns into plows, will plow for those who do not." - Thomas Jefferson
"Those who hammer their guns into plows, will plow for those who do not." - Thomas Jefferson
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A TRUE HOUNDSMEN NEVER, I MEAN NEVER STOPS LOOKEN FOR HIS DOG, EVEN YEARS AFTER EVEN BEING POSSIBLE TOO FIND HIM. I'VE BEEN THERE.. 27 YEARS AND IF I WAS STILL THERE IN THAT STATE AND COUNTRY I WAS HUNTING IN WHEN IT HAPPENED IT WOULD STILL TO THIS DAY BE ON MY MIND.... THE VERY BEST LUCK TO YOU IN FINDING YOURS SO YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO BE TORMENTED ABOUT IT FOR LIFE...
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wingpatch wrote:A TRUE HOUNDSMEN NEVER, I MEAN NEVER STOPS LOOKEN FOR HIS DOG, EVEN YEARS AFTER EVEN BEING POSSIBLE TOO FIND HIM. I'VE BEEN THERE.. 27 YEARS AND IF I WAS STILL THERE IN THAT STATE AND COUNTRY I WAS HUNTING IN WHEN IT HAPPENED IT WOULD STILL TO THIS DAY BE ON MY MIND.... THE VERY BEST LUCK TO YOU IN FINDING YOURS SO YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO BE TORMENTED ABOUT IT FOR LIFE...
That dog was lost in some country that is a little bit rougher than what is in Mo. I'm sure it will always be on liv2hunt's mind and he doesn't need any reminding of that fact.
So I guess if you never, I mean never stop looking than you are making monthly/yearly trips back to the country you lost a dog in 27 years ago? "IF I WAS STILL THERE IN THAT STATE AND COUNTRY I WAS HUNTING IN WHEN IT HAPPENED IT WOULD STILL TO THIS DAY BE ON MY MIND" Since you are not in that country anymore guess it's not on your mind anymore either.
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wingpatch wrote:larry ,if you read my post i said if i was still in that state... it happened in oregon not in missouri...
Right, so if you read your post you'll see that since it was in Or., it is no longer on your mind
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sorry to here about your dog but in that country up there it is really tough to know what is going to happen next but if those dogs got turned around in there christian and she is heading towards the bob it might take a month for them to come back out but with god on your side lets just hope she makes it out of there.
Put em on the wood.....
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