spokane, Washington

[Idaho Bison]

I'd double check.

I was told by F&g that you could purchase a hound handler permit with a resident lic. That includes a lifetime resident lic. Was I told wrong?

[PIGLET]

yes its wrong! Even if you buy lifetime license its only good for the license! so if you move out of state you get your license but your tags are still non resident tags prices! which in the case of hounds you get your license but still have to put in the drawn as a non resident! Lifetime license is just that, only the license! yak you probably can for unit 10 12 and 15? which non residents can buy over the counter!

[Idaho Bison]

The Middlefork of the Salmon is the only area guranteed for non-resident permit sand it only has roads to it and plenty of wolves. Unit 10, 12, and 15 are all Statewide permits only. I believe unit 10 and 12 had special permits but they went away a few years back.

[Huntin Hounds]

Yak is right. The lifetime license guarantees you the RIGHTS OF A RESIDENT for life no matter where you are. That means you can buy a hound permit. You have to go to the F@G office to buy it. They then have to call Boise to authorize it but it only takes about 15 min. If you move there just to get that and then move away I would say that could be fraud so be careful. If I were you I would just move to Idaho. Hunting for everything in Idaho is better IMO. My job is in Washington and that's where I live and I can still hunt Idaho, but the day I can afford to move back that's where I'll be.

[Yaak attack]

If you have a primary residence, an Idaho DL and a utility bill from that residence, for 6 months you are a resident. There is no fraud, you meet the criteria.

[PIGLET]

and if you move out of state, they will still give you your lifetime license but tags and permits will be at non resident prices and quotas! many of calls to fish and game ten years ago when the lifetime license came out i learned that! Or else i would of moved over for a year buy the lifetime license and then move back, I also found out if you are a resident and buy the lifetime license you are guarateed to get that license for life but just the license, so they are subject to tags and permit price raises, or eliminatation of seasons!

[Huntin Hounds]

The quota does not apply to the lifetime license holders. In two months I will buy my new HOUND PERMIT, BEAR TAG, and LION TAG at non-resident prices. It will cost about $510 for all of it. I don't fill out that application or anything I just go buy it. It doesn't even show up on their computer until they authorize it from Boise. Make sure you are legit if before you try and get your lifetime cause a Game Warden will come to your house for an interview and investigate you to make sure you actually have the intent of living there. If I were you and you got nothing holding you back I would just move there permanently. Washington will always suck for hunting. Just get out if you can. Over there you may even draw a moose permit while your still young enough to hike in mountains. I'll be moving back as soon as I can afford to work here and live there.

[PIGLET]

so how if you have to buy a non resident tags how are you considered a resident for the hound permit? because non resident hound permit that cost 167 dollars are by draw only?

[PIGLET]

im sorry huntinhounds i stand corrected, you are right as rain they waive having to put in for a hound permit!

[Huntin Hounds]

No worries Piglet. I think that info is pretty hard to get other than by word of mouth. I doubt IDFG just comes out tells people about it.

[Yaak attack]

I was thinking that is how it works, but opted not to do it since cat hunting in the northern units isn't even close to what it was twenty years ago before the permits. It's too bad that Idaho beats their cats so hard. Makes it hard in some places to justify raising a pup.

[Huntin Hounds]

Ya it is Yak. IDFG needs to put some female quotas on the panhandle units. The bear hunting is ok but the cat hunting is depressing.

[Idaho Bison]

Here is some reference from the Idaho Administrative Code governing IDFG regulations.



02. Limitation on Hound Hunter Permits for Nonresidents. No more than seventy (70) nonresident
hound hunter permits will be issued to nonresident hunters who are not licensed outfitters pursuant to the authority
vested in the Outfitters and Guides Board, Sections 36-2101, et seq., Idaho Code. A licensed outfitter, who is a
nonresident, is exempt from the limitation. Nonresident licensed outfitters and guides who have obtained a hound
hunter permit under this exemption shall not use this for personal hunting. Sales of nonresident Hound Hunter
Permits to the following persons shall not be counted in the quota for nonresidents: (3-30-01)
a. Unqualified Residents. Persons who have moved into Idaho and by notarized affidavit show proof
of their intent to become bona fide Idaho residents but are not yet qualified to purchase a resident license. (7-1-93)
b. Middle Fork Zone. Persons who hound hunt solely in big game units within the Middle Fork elk
zone (Units 20A, 26, and 27) shall not be counted in the quota for nonresidents. (3-30-01)
c. Selway Zone. Persons who hound hunt solely within the Selway Zone (Units 16A, 17, 19, and 20)
shall not be counted in the quota for nonresidents. A total of forty (40) permits will be issued for Units 16A, 19, 20,
and all of Unit 17, excluding Hunt Area 17-1 which will have six (6) permits. Hunt Area 17-1 is defined as that
portion of Unit 17 south of the following boundary: Beginning at the junction of the Unit 17 boundary and Forest
Service Trail 24, then west along Forest Service Trail 24 to the Selway River, then north along the Selway River to
Forest Service Trail 40, then southwest along Forest Service Trail 40 to Forest Service Trail 3, then along Forest
Service Trail 3 to the Unit 17 boundary. (3-30-01)
d. Lolo Zone. Persons who hound hunt solely in the Lolo Zone (Units 10 and 12) shall not be counted
in the quota for nonresidents. Six (6) permits will be issued for each of the following four (4) hunt areas: (3-30-01)
i. Hunt Area 10-1 is that portion of Unit 10 on the north side of the North Fork of the Clearwater
River drainage downstream from its junction with Kelly Creek. (3-30-01)
ii. Hunt Area 10-2 is that portion of Unit 10 within the North Fork of the Clearwater River drainage
upstream from its junction with Kelly Creek, and the Kelly Creek drainage excluding the Cayuse Creek drainage
upstream from its junction with Forest Service Road 581. (3-30-01)
iii. Hunt Area 12-1 is that portion of Unit 12 north of U.S. Highway 12, and west of Doe Creek Road
(Forest Service Road 566). (3-30-01)
iv. Hunt Area 12-2 is that portion of Unit 12 south of U.S. Highway 12 and west of Elk Summit Road
(Forest Service Road 360). (3-30-01)
03. Eligibility -- Residents. A resident Hound Hunter Permit may be obtained by a holder of a resident
hunting license by paying the appropriate fee at a license vendor. (3-30-01)
04. Eligibility -- Nonresidents. (7-1-93)
a. Applications for Hound Hunter Permits shall be made on a form prescribed by the Department and
must be received at the Headquarters Office of the Idaho Department of Fish and Game or postmarked not later than
December 1 of the year preceding the year in which the permit is to be valid. (4-5-00)
b. Any application which is unreadable or which lacks the required information will be declared void
and will not be entered in the drawing. All applications will be considered final. They may not be resubmitted after
correction. (4-5-00)
c. Applicants must comply with the following requirements: (7-1-93)
i. No person may submit more than one (1) application for a Hound Hunter Permit. (4-5-00)
IDAHO ADMINISTRATIVE CODE IDAPA 13.01.15
Department of Fish and Game Rules Governing the Use of Dogs
Page 5 IAC 2008
ii. Group applications will be accepted. A group application for a Hound Hunter Permit is defined as
two (2) hunters applying for two (2) permits on the same application form. (3-30-01)
d. Hound Hunter Permits that remain unissued after the drawing may be issued by the Department on
a first-come, first-served basis at the Regional offices during normal business hours on or after December 10.
(4-5-00)
05. Invalidity of Permit. In the event a permit is issued based on erroneous or fraudulent information,
the permit is invalid and CANNOT be used. Any permit issued on the basis of fraudulent information is subject to the
provisions of Title 36, Idaho Code, and IDAPA 13.01.01, “Rules Governing Licensing.” (4-5-00)

[Idaho Bison]

202. CERTIFICATE HOLDERS RESIDING OUT-OF-STATE.
The lifetime license certificate shall not become invalid if the certificate holder subsequently resides outside the state
of Idaho. However, should the certificate holder become a nonresident, any stamp(s), permit(s), and/or tag(s) required
for hunting and fishing activities must be purchased at the nonresident fee. However, limits set by the Commission
upon the sale of any nonresident stamp(s), permit(s), and/or tag(s) shall not apply to those sold to a certificate holder.
(7-1-93)