Black & Tans for Bobcats

[Justaguy]

Hi Guys,

I have always liked Black and Tans and I plan on getting back into hounds in the next year or so when I retire. I really do not want to start a pissing contest and do not want to start a ny fights concerning different blood lines but would like a little advice or knowledge on a few lines I have found.

But first let me say I will run mostly bobcats with a few coon when cat season is closed. I live in the western United States and will remain here and will very lilely end up in SW Oregon or Northen California so you know what kind of ground I will be hunting. Enough info..

It seems that there are a few lines that suit cat hunting and they are Three Times Albert dogs out of Gene Hicks line, Ken Duncan's Black and Tans and I keep picking up tid bits of info on a line "Trackdown Kennels" but it is only a line or two here and there and I have yet to see any real info or who has the line of dog. I would also like to through in one last line and that would be the wagner line out of the nighthawk kennels. Now if I understand correctly the old wagner line was one of the first to try and bring down the size of the old B&T's. Also my understanding is that all these above mentioned lines are the lighter smaller B&Ts (males 60-70 & Females 50-60) when in hunting shape.

I would like to hear any and all comments or experiences (good & Bad) or suggestions of a line berrter than these if you have one.

Thanks

Joe

[sheimer]

I've got a male from Ken Duncan out of his Five Time Albert and a female named Jade. He was an early starter and has a really cold nose. At 5 months on a cold bobcat track he could just walk away from the pack while they were attempting to grub it out. Too bad he was so young and would wait for them once he got out a few hunderd yards. He treed his first lion at 7 months by himself. Over the summer I coon hunted him and it taught him to tree better and off of scent only. He's a fair coon dog. This year he is starting off the season fairly slowly. The first three races so far he's been outran by my other dogs. He's not in really good shape yet but he is getting better. I have a lot of hope for him.

He's about 80-85 pounds and is what a hound is supposed to look like. Long ears and sad eyes.

Scott

[guy54]

I have a full brother to sheimer's Duncan dog that is six months old now and is doing well. He has been trailing coon since he was three months old. He is not strong on the tree yet but we plan to work on that. For some reason a lot of our coon will go right by a perfectly good tree and get caught on the ground. I also have a female that I got from Fred Smith that is seven months old and is tearing it up. She winds a track well and is fast. She also trees pretty good. I tried Mike Leonard's training method with lion scent the other day and used only the pups and both of them ran it well. I have had two Duncan dogs and they both are very track minded and seem to be cold nosed. This female that I have from Fred Smith is the first one I have had from him and so far I am really impressed with her speed when trailing. She is far ahead of the rest on a track. You might add Fred Smith to your list as a possible dog source.