Feeding bones.

[007pennpal]

Ok. Been feeding bones with meet attached raw. I'm seeing all the bone chips in stool and wondering... then one pup had good amount of bright red blood in stool. Seems to be ok now. Anyway, somebody told me its a bad idea to let em chew the bones cause it can tear guts. Anyone have this problem?
Sean

[kehrer10]

i had my pup end up in the emergency room a few months ago from swallowing a chunk of bone. it tore the lining up in his stomach and it got infected, his stool was completely full of blood. it actually looked like he was being gutted when he pooped. it was a nasty deal but luckily he pulled through, after a grand and a couple days at the vet.

[007pennpal]

Did the vet actually do anything inside the dog or did he basically pull through on his own? Also, if it is the stomach the blood should be black by the time it comes out, not red, being affected by the large and small intestines. So, my guess is the cut was father down. I'm not a vet.
Sean

[kehrer10]

I think it was actually farther down. All the vet did was keep him on an i.v. and give him a couple ampecilon shots. There wasn't a whole lot that showed up on the x-ray, just a few small objects that appeared to be bones.

[Spokerider]

Ok. Been feeding bones with meet attached raw. I'm seeing all the bone chips in stool and wondering... then one pup had good amount of bright red blood in stool. Seems to be ok now. Anyway, somebody told me its a bad idea to let em chew the bones cause it can tear guts. Anyone have this problem?
Sean

I ALWAYS had the butcher grind the bones and meat to pulp before feeding to the dogs. They still got all of the bennifits of the BARF diet when doing so. Why not eliminate the risk of esophageal or bowel perforation?

Bright red blood IN stool means it is coming from the large bowel or rectum, and is not digested blood.......which would be tarry and almost black in color. Neither is good, but I suspect the latter is worse. Possibilities for bleeding may be;

1 abdominal trauma,
2 perforation,
3 bleeding tumor,
4 colitis or similar bowel disorder,
5 Blood bleeding disorder,
6 Eating rat poision, aka warfin
7 etc

[not color blind]

Help a "special" guy out...

Has anybody ground bones? Any info on grinders, etc.?

[Daniel Tremblay]

I was once told NEVER feed a dog bones, your just asking for trouble! Was told this by my sister who is a vet so....I'm going to stick with it and never have allowed my dogs to chew on bones. I will let me clean the meat off than take the bones away but thats it.

[007pennpal]

I think I'm gonna go with let them get the meat and take them away. Everytime they chew up the bones it makes them have constipation or bloody poop so it doen't seem good for em. I sure wouldn't want to pass bone chips. ha ha. Grrouch!

[Spokerider]

Cooked or smoked bones WILL splinter. I would only give raw bones, and only the knuckle end of the femur bone of bison or cattle. The knuckle part has cancellous bone, aka spongy bone on it, with the shank being the hollow part that splinters. Cancellous bone has a matrix that won`t hurt them, and it`s what they will gnaw down first on the bone. Discard the bone before they start splintering that shank portion.

Is what I do..........

[Mountainhound]

I think I'm gonna go with let them get the meat and take them away. Everytime they chew up the bones it makes them have constipation or bloody poop so it doen't seem good for em. I sure wouldn't want to pass bone chips. ha ha. Grrouch!

The constipation is from to much bone. What you want is like a 10-15% bone to meat ratio. Never feed cooked bone, and if you are feeding a glutton try feeding them frozen. An example say you are feeding a chicken leg, with a glutton they will just devour it if not frozen but frozen they have to bite off bite size pieces and are more likely to chew that up. Also you want to make sure they are getting some organ meat ie; liver, stomach and so forth. That is also at a 10-15% ratio. Also when starting a all raw diet go slow start with one protien source (ie; chicken) then after a week or so add another and so on and so forth. Otherwise you can wind up with a dog with the runs. Make sure to feed only that protien source during that week so you know what so if the runs occur you know the cause. Another good thing to have on hand is a can of pumpkin real pumpkin it will settle their stomach and tighten things up.

[catdogs]

We also just had a pup that got a chunk of bone lodged in the large intestine. Luckily it was right near the back and the vet was able to get it out without surgery and the pup is doing fine. This was just a bone picked up from somehwere. We only feed raw bones and big ones like femur bones and pick them up before they get too dried out and once the meat is gone.

[dobalina]

What size bones are u feeding
i give femurs never had a problem raw or par-boiled

[007pennpal]

Good information. I was feeding them whatever I could get. Bear, elk and deer. Also small game after I take the skin. They are getting whatever I don't eat. Now hunting friends are bringing me theirs too. I had to buy a new freezer. Some of the hounds are picky of what they eat. ???
Sean