guarantees

[schnell]

Recently a guy inquiring about a pup asked me if I'd give him a 6 month guarantee on the pups health. Of course i said no, because I have no control over what happens to the critter once it leaves my custody. (aside from that coinciding with the end of the season...)

But it got me thinkin and wonderin a bit. (probably shouldn't do that to much, though)

Anyone offer guarantees when they sell a pup?

It seems to me that the only real guarantee that exists is "what you see is what you get". Which makes a sale under the tree ideal for both parties for most purposes. However, this is obviously not a suitable method for young unstarted pups. The best approximation is to go see the litter and check them out personally. Look over the parents, meet the owner, etc.

I guess that economics answers the question though. Since a pup is an unknown gamble
they aren't worth a fifth of a well started or proven hound.

Ever get a guarantee when you bought a pup (from someone you didn't know)?

[Benny G]

I've never gotten a guarantee from anyone whether I knew them or not. I also have never given a guarantee. Anything that lives and breathes, including all of us, can fall over dead without warning. This summer I got a pair of pups that I've seen a lot of potential in. Two days ago I couldn't find my girl pup, now about 5 months old, so I went looking for her. I found her dead, underneath a cattle panel that was leaned up in front of the barn to keep the horses out. All of the house cats have learned that the only way to have refuge from those two pups was to crawl into the haystack. My pup had enough drive that she would squeeze through the panel and bay those cats all day. She got big enough that she no longer fit, but that didn't stop her. She had all the makings of a pup that was going to make a hand. Since I had her less than 4 months, would she have fallen under a 6 month guarantee? If you don't have any dogs or pups, you won't lose any---ever.

[Unreal_tk]

I will not buy a dog or pup without a written contract. All I want is that the dog will do as said or as pups go that they show interest in game by a year old. Not saying treeing but interest. Health and other stuff there is no way to guarantee that.

[houndnem]

I have always garrantied my pups. the garranty is only that they will hunt by the time they should. you can't garranty the health of an animal. I always figured on a pup, if it don't work for that person I would take it back and try to make it hunt for me. if it don't hunt for me it's gona be culled or a pet. I sell my pups for 250-300$ so I'd rather be out 250 than have a person unsatisfeid and running my name into the ground. it's not good for p.r. to have unsatisfeid customers. the other thing you could look at is if you get it back and it does hunt good and was just the persons inability to train then the dog will be worth more $ with some age under it and you didn't have to feed it through it's puppyhood.

[sheimer]

I bought a pup from Ken Duncan and he came with a guarantee to hunt by a year old. I would never expect him to take back a pup that I didn't take care of or not train, but he didn't expect me to pay for a pup that wouldn't hunt. I figured it was a fair shake.

Scott

[krk hunting]

I dont think there is anything wrong with a health guarantee. All this is saying that you will guarantee against any defects, Not saying accidents, this would cover things like hip dysplasia or any non transferable disease. Of course if you expect this kind of guarantee you will need to have documentation of vet checks and along with a lot of other costly expenses as an owner to prove adequate care and in the event of a problem more vet exams and now does the cost out weight the investment. ( you decide)

Junk

[BEAR HUNTER]

Alot of states have laws that make the seller liable for the health of the pup for a certain time frame. You should check your state laws.

[George Streepy]

No guarantee on the health. To many variables that are out of your control. However, if I sold a dog or a pup to someone and the cause of death seemed it wasn't the buyers fault I may offer them their money back. But it would be my decision.

I bought a young dog a few years back for a $1000. I picked it up just after season ended and it died a couple months later. I never took the dog in the woods. The sickness set in so fast it worried me so I had an autopsy (or whatever it is called for a dog) done. It wasn't something the dog picked up at my house. It also wasn't neglect of the seller. It was just bad luck. I didn't ask for any money back.

The autopsy thing was about $400, so it better be a pretty expensive pup to warrant spending that kind of money to determine who is owed what. The reason I did the autopsy was because I was worried about the rest of the dogs at my house, not because I wanted to play the blame game. If you can't afford to loose a little money to bad luck, take up a different hobby.

[krk hunting]

I think if someone is selling a pup and you have a issue of health arise that will cause an non huntable condition the pup needs to be replaced or refund that doesn't mean warranty for life. I think 1yr of age is acceptable for all. I dont classify a 1 yr old dog as a pup. No health warrenty on a dog older than 1 yr other than 30 or 60 days.


Junk

[nmplott]

I think if someone is selling a pup and you have a issue of health arise that will cause an non huntable condition the pup needs to be replaced or refund that doesn't mean warranty for life. I think 1yr of age is acceptable for all. I dont classify a 1 yr old dog as a pup. No health warrenty on a dog older than 1 yr other than 30 or 60 days.


Junk

I agree, the pups should be warranted to include genetic defects, but normal health concerns like viral/bacterial infections.

[schnell]

I offered the vets records and inspection, but he wanted something more. I wasn't really able to wrap my head around exactly what he was wanting. Though my impression was that he was really wanting a finished dog, not a pup.

Probably good that deal never came together. There needs to be a certain amount of confidence on both sides of any agreement.

[krk hunting]

Difference when it comes to finished dogs.