Looking for the best plott bloodline

[scotty]

Anyone can find info on the internet! And that is where some think they are experts. I have been on these sites longer than some have been hunting, but you don't see me post much. The reason is that I have nothing to prove to anyone and others opinions don't hold much weight with me. I find it hilarious that some people log that much internet time when they should be putting their money wher their mouth is! I know the experience of certain individuals that spend tons of time on the internet trying to infate themselves that it would floor the average person!

[scotty]

Oh by the way. Good one with ABC man!

[jonet plotts]

I guess i worded this post wrong somehow????Steve White please don't make another comment on this subject again.You really do not want to know what i think.
I am looking for the guy out there who is hunting as close to as hard as i have been for the last 17 years with plotts.I am talking from the beginning of Dec.on cat or bear if that's when your season starts at least 4 days a week thru march.Then from the middle of april til june on bear or lion for weeks at a time.Then from july 1 to sept.1 at least 4 days a week.then everyday from sept 15 til october 26 everyday!That guy is the one i hope to find with the kind of dogs i am looking for.Those dogs will obviously be built right.40 to 60 pounds, fine boned legs,deep chest,strong topline,& super tough tight feet.If that dog doesn't meet those specks i am not interested.They wiil have big hearts to hunt that much and produce game.then i wil ask him questions about his hounds to see how he feels about thier noses,speed,and grit.
The dogs i am looking for are the calm thinkers.Not the chain running barkers that won't cold trail til they are 3 years old.
I have gotten some great input from some guys on here and i thank them for that!

[kickemall]

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[scotty]

I GUARENTEE you S.W. is not your man. Not only from personal experience but from several others. (Not to include Bluff Creek owners). Imagine that!

[scotty]

Darell,
I am hoping that we can have a civil conversation here.
You may not remember me but we have hunted together. It was your dogs that didi it. I am friends with Jeff, Ryan, and Marc. N. WI. I am in love with the pup that Marc got from you last fall and I would love to have one if possible. No matter what you read on here I think you should look at BLUFF CREEK. it may or may not be what you want but worth a look. If interested I can line up several for you to see in the woods.
Dave Socott
Pike Lake

[Smiley]

You are going to have a hard time finding a line from a breeder ran that hard none of the ones that have been mentioned are hunted that hard good luck in finding what you are looking for .

I am looking for the guy out there who is hunting as close to as hard as i have been for the last 17 years with plotts.I am talking from the beginning of Dec.on cat or bear if that's when your season starts at least 4 days a week thru march.Then from the middle of april til june on bear or lion for weeks at a time.Then from july 1 to sept.1 at least 4 days a week.then everyday from sept 15 til october 26 everyday!That guy is the one i hope to find with the kind of dogs i am looking for.Those dogs will obviously be built right.40 to 60 pounds, fine boned legs,deep chest,strong topline,& super tough tight feet.If that dog doesn't meet those specks i am not interested.They wiil have big hearts to hunt that much and produce game.then i wil ask him questions about his hounds to see how he feels about thier noses,speed,and grit.
The dogs i am looking for are the calm thinkers.Not the chain running barkers that won't cold trail til they are 3 years old.
I have gotten some great input from some guys on here and i thank them for that!

That being said there are lines out there that can run like that and have been mentioned .
Darryl fine tune what you are asking for make a grade of what is most important to you each line is swayed one way or another toward a majority of the dogs having certain tendancies each of the lines mentioned in my eyes and most would lean more toward certain tendancies than the others ( not telling you anything you do not know but there is no perfect line or dog ) some run a track better than others some will have more mental and physical toughness ect... Narrow down what you are wanting . Each line has dogs that can hunt like you mentioned but very few are tried and proved in the woods like you mentioned.

[AntiBluffCreekMan]

Jonet Plotts I am sorry to have hi-jacked your post. I started another thread for the mini-series. I can respect a man who hunts as hard as you. Your dedication is commendable and I do not want to take away from your search. Sorry your super PAL.

[jonet plotts]

Smiley you have made a great point.I know there is no perfect dog out there.I believe i have had some very close to it & i think i have at least one that is very close now.She does lack on the volume of her mouth & I cannot guarentee she is completely broke yet but she is 2 1/2 & she is very close.I am looking for more like her but with a better mouth.Or at least similar.I believe if i can find that and breed it with mine, doubling up on the traits i am looking for will increase the chances of getting closer to the perfect cross.

[Outlaw 3]

Cascade if you can find them.

Laurel Mtn/Gante are also a good pick.

[jonet plotts]

I have had gante,they were not consistant enough.some friends had some and had same outcome.Never had cascade . don't know of any present day cascade around anymore?Therefor it was bred out for a reason.The other i have never heard of tho.Thanks for the input.

[Outlaw 3]

Your welcome for the suggestions.

Cascade is in the background of many bloodlines today. After 30 years of people using it as an outcross to add to their pack and then keeping their name on the litters produced, the name has faded away.

We still keep and hunt dogs from the Cascade bloodline, but we have not kept papers on them in a long time. They have more stick/drive than any line of dogs I have ever hunted with.

My only issue with Gante is/was their nose.

Laurel MTN is a line of Gante dogs that Roy Clark has been breeding for many years.

[swampposh]

Knew that would rile the BC chronies

Never had one never will. Won't have dogs that are not coming from dogs that are not being hunted on the game on a consistent basis. Not many bears in Kansas.

My thoughts exactly when one of the BC cronies tried to sell me a bear hound from Kansas.

[Okietreedog]

i have hunted with some bluff creek dogs and other lines of plotts here in oklahoma, some of those shamrock and bluff creek crosses where made here in oklahoma. Their daddy was a good hog dog that belong to clue anderson, his daddy was steve herds old stud dog and the mother was a weems bred female that clue bought that was a tuff hog dog and was run on bear before he bought her. I hunted a pup of this cross on coon she did alright then I sent her to clue and he hunted her on hogs she was a little slow for his pack so he sold her for somebody up north to bear hunt. If you had not stated you want bear and lion i would look at some of those that are hunted on hogs. i would say get in contact with clue

[box rocker]

In the 20 or so years I have been hunting hounds I have only had one plott and she is 6 years old know and is a very good bear and lion hound for me. I can run her for 2 weeks straight and not blow out her feet in the rocks. Not a real big dog tight footed and one hell of a tree dog. she is out of Wild Bill and Iris of Stephen Chilcote's dogs.