Marking tracks?

[Doogie]

couldnt do that here unless its after sunrise.

[Yard Dog]

[quote="d_j__c"]How do you guys mark you tracks?

You dont mark it, you put a dog down! If you are not going to run it or think you can find somthing better, then move on.. If you are trying to cut it fresher then you should leave a buddy on it or do what you have to do. Suppose you are cutting for tracks and come accross where a cat has crossed and someone has gotten out and looked at it. What do you do? Do you pass it up becouse someone might be coming back to run it? It could have been anybody. A trapper in the area, one of those high school kids getting paid to cut for a guide or just somebody looking. You have no way of knowing. I would never intentionally dump out in front of or behind anyone, but if I find a track that someone has looked at and left, its fair game.
As far as the "gentlemanly thing to do"... BS... the gentlemanly thing to do would be to stop thinking you own the mountain and all game on it... How ethical is it to think that every track you stop and look at is YOURS whether you return to run it or not?
Again, crap or get of the pot..Put a dog down or move on!

[dhostetler]

The gentleman way is not to hog tracks and share them. Where I hunt there are regularly 4 houndman that hunt and we communicate with each other and if not everyone has a track by first light one of the others will give up an extra track. Also the gentleman way is if a strange hunter pulls up while you are turning loose is offer him to throw a dog or two in with you. If you never turn in with other dogs you will never know how good your dogs are.

[sheimer]

The gentleman way is not to hog tracks and share them. Where I hunt there are regularly 4 houndman that hunt and we communicate with each other and if not everyone has a track by first light one of the others will give up an extra track. Also the gentleman way is if a strange hunter pulls up while you are turning loose is offer him to throw a dog or two in with you. If you never turn in with other dogs you will never know how good your dogs are.

Seems about like where I hunt.

Scott

[Kenneth]

I guess I'm lucky where I hunt. The times we get snow are few and far between, and the amount of times I run into other lion hunters are even fewer. But then again, I don't get that many cats put up either...I just feel blessed to be able to get the dogs out as often as I do.

Ken

[meguide01]

here in maine it seems to be the same ideas but well for me personally if i cross a track going to my desired area then i try to notify the group i have seen in that area i have marked them before so they know where i found it incase for some reason they discover another before comin to the one i see but will run it if time and conditions r right. the thing is unless somebody owns the land no one should have rights but honorable gestures do become ways to make friends and even help when needed and this will happen when u least likely are ready and really need the help so to give is to get and to forgive is devine. that sums it up for me !!

[bob baldwin jr]

meguide 01 : Great point you make there . either by 2 way radio or cell phone if the hounds blow off we always put out the word if we are not going to pursue .Particularly to the new guys or guys with Not the greatest hounds . The Addage what goes around comes around comes to mind . Granted I don't always see eye to eye with all hounders but you never know when you might need a friend . Had a few instances where I questioned that , passed a set of tracks once decided Not to pursue Really , Really wet area , Turned out the new kid had a short pursuit put down a 300 lb 'r . In my book a little CONSIDERATION and RESPECT goes a LONG WAY . If we can't get along together in the woods with each other we are in a " WORLD of SHIT "

[brad ferris]

One morning in early january I cut a tom track just off the newgate. (Cranbrook area) I put a leather workglove on a stick and stood it in the track. I then proceeded to try box it in or cut it fresher. I also had to grab my buddy and bring him to the track. When I returned at 10 am two different houndsmen had found my track and left without running it. We ran the track and killed a nice tom. Incidentally it was a houndsman from idaho that showed me to mark a track.

[Sackett]

By a show of hands-how many gentlemen do we have out there today............

[Mike Leonard]

I haven't seen too many hands yet. LOL!


I am lucky and sort of like Kenneth out where this goes on I left behind a number of years ago so I don't have to deal with the hassle. So i find my tracks after I have left the truck and usually it is the hounds that find them and they usually don't wait around and stomp them out and such they just go to work and you either catch it or you don't and when you get to tp the tree or the bay up you can either say dang that's a good one or darn it I sure wish i hadn't blown my whole day letting these dogs work their hearts out for that little thing. LOL!

Only thing better than treeing a lion is trailing one...........

[timothy]

Wow you guys have it good if you can pass up fresh tracks. I hunt private property here in Ut so I dint worry about other hunters, but i do however call my buddies if i find a fresh track. Hunting is about having fun not marking your territory. I would rather tree a lion than spend 3 hours marking tracks and thinking about it.

[Yard Dog]

Gentleman?.....what is a gentleman?

Is a gentleman someone who gets up a 2:00 a.m (or earlier) after a fresh snow, leaves his dogs and buddys at home, cuts 3-4 drainages (and everywhere in between), stomps out (or leaves bootmarks) at every track he crosses and expects to be able to return sometime before 11:00 a.m. with his dogs and buddys to run one of these tracks (who knows which one) and expects all other houndsmen who might have wanted to get their mutts of a chain to step aside? Yea, a real gentleman indeed.

Raise your hand if your a real gentleman hu?....I guess I'll keep my hands down.

Jumping tracks when you know another hunter is trying to box it and cut it fresher is wrong, but so is driving around all night trying to tie up large hunting areas just by stomping or leave bootmarks at every track you cross. Seems like to me that a few guys would like to push this "unwritten rule", that is as long as they are the beneficiary. I would bet these same guys would be squilling like stuck pigs if they were on the other end of this "but I left bootmarks" rule.
Bottom line, if your not activly trying to cut it fresher or am not willing to put a dog down, YOUR LOSS. Any houndsmen that thinks all others should wait around while he goes home to get his dogs and buddys, or just to see if he can find a better cat to run is a ASS anyway. JMO

[cougarhound]

Gentleman?.....what is a gentleman?

Is a gentleman someone who gets up a 2:00 a.m (or earlier) after a fresh snow, leaves his dogs and buddys at home, cuts 3-4 drainages (and everywhere in between), stomps out (or leaves bootmarks) at every track he crosses and expects to be able to return sometime before 11:00 a.m. with his dogs and buddys to run one of these tracks (who knows which one) and expects all other houndsmen who might have wanted to get their mutts of a chain to step aside? Yea, a real gentleman indeed.

Raise your hand if your a real gentleman hu?....I guess I'll keep my hands down.

Jumping tracks when you know another hunter is trying to box it and cut it fresher is wrong, but so is driving around all night trying to tie up large hunting areas just by stomping or leave bootmarks at every track you cross. Seems like to me that a few guys would like to push this "unwritten rule", that is as long as they are the beneficiary. I would bet these same guys would be squilling like stuck pigs if they were on the other end of this "but I left bootmarks" rule.
Bottom line, if your not activly trying to cut it fresher or am not willing to put a dog down, YOUR LOSS. Any houndsmen that thinks all others should wait around while he goes home to get his dogs and buddys, or just to see if he can find a better cat to run is a ASS anyway. JMO

+1

[BlacktailStalker]

One morning in early january I cut a tom track just off the newgate. (Cranbrook area) I put a leather workglove on a stick and stood it in the track. I then proceeded to try box it in or cut it fresher. I also had to grab my buddy and bring him to the track. When I returned at 10 am two different houndsmen had found my track and left without running it. We ran the track and killed a nice tom. Incidentally it was a houndsman from idaho that showed me to mark a track.

If I saw a personal belonging on the track I would assume you are in fact working THAT particular track, and I wouldnt chance sending my hounds in behind another guys should you cut cut it again fresher and run it again off an adjacent road.

Seeing as some might try and trick a guy now, if I saw more than one pair of gloves out there on a different track you'd be once again, shit out of luck.
Next thing you know homeless dudes would be following houndsmen around looking for free pairs of gloves

[dhostetler]

Where I hunt I am lucky that I know everyone that hunts here most of the time, however I vividly remember the cut throat tactics when we were still on a quota system and our area was flooded by out of staters bent on killing everything that went up.

In the early 90s to mid 90s our area's quota of 20+ lions sometimes never got filled however by the late 90s outfitters were really ramping up and a certain group of hound guys from Wisconsin showed up and shot everything that went up and hunted day and night and would some years shoot 10 lions in a weeks time. Needless to say we lost our quota to a permit only system.

That's why in our area Wisconsin hound guys are considered worse than the plague.

In January they showed up with 3 tags(???). Lucky they had only one good day then we had a week of rainy weather. On that one good day they did shoot one of our local 90 lb. pup trainer sows.