Offer to Utah Houndsmen.

[tonyabbott]

Hey bear killer, why don't you read the other post where the houndsmen took shots at me and I was not even a member of this site. You need to be less ignorant yourself. I don't have time and am not interested in your opinion because your opinion is not based on ANY knowledge of me or my program.

And dickhead approach is EXACTLY what the houndsman did when they blasted me with their uneducated posts about the show that aired.

Get informed and come on the program. I have an audience of nearly 18,000 people that you could educate. Or you can continue with your dickhead remarks on here and accomplish NOTHING.

YEs JAson did say he will come on the program, how bout Chad Coburn who started the other post? He sure seems to have a dog in the fight.

So if my dickhead approach bothers you just realize that it was the houndsmens dickhead approach that started this.

[Brindle]

Bplott is the president. He said he's on his way. To get his head set and sterilize his microphone. what more are you looking for? The killing of the female is what started this? Not houndsmen being dicks. You SFW boys just don't have a care in the world about lions.

[HEKK]

I'll go on your show and share some of my knowledge and experiences. I have seen the decline in lions and have some insight as to what could be causing the depletion of an animal that has one of the SLOWER reproductive rates out there. Jason Binder has a better grasp on the numbers and stats. He has attended many RAC meetings and could provide good conversation on those topics. I'm in though if you would like to have an "average joe" on your program. As far as your passive aggresive offer that wasn't neccessary. Stating we can't beat the media and the war we're trying to start with you is a dangerous one. You called us out as ignorant, you lumped us in to one collective mindset when only reading the posts of a few. I know you feel attacked and had some emotion behind it. Will you really provide an unbiased forum to express our side of the story respectfully and we can hear yours? I feel this is a great oppurtunity to have the general public hear our side and hopefully get an education in lions. We need to ban together and Tony if you are truly a hunting advocate you know the importance of numbers on your side. Conservation is the key to good hunting and this could be the ember to get the fire started in the minds of who are in charge of setting the quota numbers on lions. - Lance
Lance Pehrson
(435) 704-4179
pehrson77@hotmail.com

[Bearkiller]

Could it be that they saw you for who you really are?

Yeah, I think I acknowedged that.

Does your program air in the basin? Obviously the TV show does but for some reason I find myself busy at the time it airs. Maybe I'll DVR it. The whole point is that while there may be a handful of guys who were running on your show, there were just as many, if not more, who either liked your show or had no opinion and you did nothing to prove the handful of guys wrong. That's all I'm saying. I'm sure you're a good guy with your heart in the right spot. You are just a little defensive. I actually thought the guys were pissed at the outfitters more than the show but maybe I read too much into that. If you want me too come on your program I will but I am not a member of any hound hunting organizations, much less a representative. I hunt with my family and a couple friends, that's it. I'll tell you this much, I get just as tired burning up 4 or 5 tanks of fuel to find a lion to chase as the next guy. But along with most other Utahn's, I think mismanagement is a problem with all species. Not just lions.



On a side note, individual houndsmen have either tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars invested in their sport. Unlike individual deer/elk hunters who don't come anywhere close to that. That may be why they come accross as selfish. They have the most to lose. And as much as we are singled out, most houndsmen hunt deer and elk, too.

[timothy]

Now i see why my father in law calls this the little bitch website. It does not take much to ignite peoples emotions on here! Alot of people have made some pretty ignorant statements on this subject. Tony you included, I think though that if your offering the real deal here, and you will put some people on your show (I already asked you to talk to Ken Duncan) and get facts out and not opinions and bad information then what you are doing is a good thing. However there has been alot of people act like they were going to help out the "cause" and they turned around and screwed everyone, so youll have to excuse the skeptics.

[Bearkiller]

Now i see why my father in law calls this the little bitch website. It does not take much to ignite peoples emotions on here! Alot of people have made some pretty ignorant statements on this subject. Tony you included, I think though that if your offering the real deal here, and you will put some people on your show (I already asked you to talk to Ken Duncan) and get facts out and not opinions and bad information then what you are doing is a good thing. However there has been alot of people act like they were going to help out the "cause" and they turned around and screwed everyone, so youll have to excuse the skeptics.

Timothy, haven't you had hounds for right around a year?

[tonyabbott]

Well you don't know me Timothy and for years I have been pounded by people who do NOTHING but run their mouths.

The offer is pure and real. And I do not apologize for my actions or comments. If a man won't defend himself and his beliefs he is not a real man. Political correctness has NOTHING to do with it and I could not care any less about it.

The offer is real for anyone and everyone that will take advantage of it. I am not saying my stance or opinion on the subject will change, just like I doubt yours or anyone elses will. But I always have been fair and always will be fair. And I have not stated my stance on lion in Utah other than saying the truth lies somewhere inbetween the DWR and the HOundsmen.

My resources are there for you to use if you desire. But I will never stand by idle when me, my efforts or my business are taken into question. Just like you should not if you are treated the same way.

May 7th is set aside for the Utah HOundsmen's association and anyone that they want to have in studio. my email is tonyabbott4@hotmail.com

Please have whoever is coming in to participate email me all their contact info and titles and such so I can be educated for the program.

Thanks

Tony Abbott

[Catch]

I just don't get it. You Utah hound hunters have been battling about the decline (in your opinion) of female lions. There are pages after pages of this and only one of you want to stand about and do the show. The rest of you only want to bitch and moan and point the finger. The one thing I have learned is, those that catch 30-40 cats a year always will, and those that catch 1-2 will only complain!

Tony,

If you can't get any of these guys to help with their own sport give me a shout. I'm not from Utah, but I do know many hound hunters that will do a show. I will even make the trip and we all can go catch a lion, take footage and talk about the problem. I have caught 100's of lions in Utah and I bet I still can find a few. I would love to help out. Maybe we can do a Idaho, Utah combo show.

PM me, and I will be there. You won't own me a dime for your rating increase!

[LIONHOUND1963]

Tony
I don't have any thing against the show, I was glad at least there was a houndsmen on to show our views. But, what really set me off was the DWR guy and some new guide saying the lion population is on the increase. Yeah I'm going to bust someones balls over it.

I have been running hounds for over 25 years, I have seen what has happened. It is always the lions fault for the low deer numbers. I have offered to take biologist out and show them what I am seeing, but no takers. I spend countless days on the mountain every winter I see what has happened to the deer herds. I want alot deer too but to blame the lion for the low deer numbers is wrong. In 15 years we went from a good lion population to a poor one, yet the deer numbers have not rebounded. It is time to take a different look at the problem.

We have been accused by the SFW of going to the dark side, and siding with the animal right people. We have seen the DWR set a mangement plan then change it mid stream. So, if we seem a little pissed and on the fight there is some history there

I for one will come on your show, but I'm a little leary. And I qoute (The war you are trying to start with me is a dangerous one for sure. You can't beat the media and to bust me up and Roughin' Outdoors who both have given you free publicity and help get your message out is not very smart).

I get the feeling it may be like Tom Selleck going on the Rosie O'Donnell show.

Rick Moody
Deseret Ut,
435-864-8785

[tonyabbott]

I appreciate your thoughts Rick and your concern. I am here to tell you I guarantee 100% that if you knew me you would not feel that way. I respect your concern but come on and find out for yourself.

I will be touching on this subject this Saturday. I won't be in studio but I can and will take calls as I will have a producer in studio answering the phones. Feel free to call in then and for sure you are welcome in on the 7th of May. Just email me all your contact info.

I look forward to an educational program and one that lets the public hear the side of the Houndsmen.

[timothy]

Timothy, haven't you had hounds for right around a year?

Yup, does it take 30 years of experience to see whats going on here? Maybe your a slow learner

[BigGameHunter]

And dickhead approach is EXACTLY what the houndsman did

So if my dickhead approach bothers you just realize that it was the houndsmens dickhead approach that started this.

You people are ridiculous.

So will the President or the leadership of the association come on my show or not? That is a simple question that needs to be answered or the topic will be one sided and it will be my side.

The war you are trying to start with me is a dangerous one for sure. You can't beat the media

Houndawg and the rest of you need to grow up and look past the end of your nose and selfishness

Are these the official views from the show Roughin' it Outdoors?

To be honest I mostly like your show when I stay up late enough to watch it. I don't always agree with the views but it is good enough entertainment and you seem to be a neutral host. I am a little dissappointed by your comments. Put in your shoes I think I would be a little defensive as well, however; I would think that being in the position you are in, you would be somewhat desensitized to the negativity and be able to handle it appropriately instead of resorting to the above qouted comments. Surely some in every community passionate about their sport will react similarly. Do you universally place every one of them into the same catagory? I hope not.

I, for one, appriciate the oppotunity you are presenting hounddoggers with the ability to present our stance on the matter; however, I don't really appreciate the way you have presented yourself and/or your show's view's towards houndsmen here.

Anyway, enough with the bashing back and forth and lets all put down our ego's and make this into an opportunity for houndsmen to present our case and ideas!

[tonyabbott]

Big Game Hunter

Roughin it outdoors is NOT my show. I host a radio show. And I stand by everything I said and make no excuses for it.

Roughin it outdoors simply did a story on a free hunt I gave away and then some of the houndsmen took exception that the FREE hunt winner CHOSE to kill a female lion and then they decided to bash me as well.

I have nothing to do with Roughin it outdoors other then like many others I happened to be on it last Saturday night.

And yes my program is there for people to get THEIR word out as well as get educated by others.

Tony Abbott

[Buddyw]

The war you are trying to start with me is a dangerous one for sure. You can't beat the media

I know nothing about this show.. I know when I tell the Utah guys how easy it is to find a Lion track over here they start to drool some and Cuss at me...

anyways.. your comment kinda cracks me up.. Just like the Last guy that was bashing the site trying to explain to me how much better and more valuable TV and radio shows are Better than this crappy shit hole website..

Yet.. the ironic part is .. You just like him, are over here our website telling us to go over to your show on Radio or TV?.

I'm all for it and hope you get a good turn out from hound guys, These guys gernerally spend allot more time in the woods than most other Users. At least I know I'm in the woods a hell of allot more Hunting while all my deer and ELk Buddies are in the woods maybe a couple weekends before season scouting, and their 1or 2 weeks of Hunting season..

Don't worry, It's working, cause I'm probably going to have to listen to your Show just to see if your as big of a Prick as your coming across on this site.. Not saying you are.. just that's how your coming across to me.

Can Someone from Utah Please Remind me on our little crappy website forum, when this "Radio" show is going to happen so I can remember to listen...

[Bearkiller]

quote="Bearkiller"] Timothy, haven't you had hounds for right around a year?[/quote]

Yup, does it take 30 years of experience to see whats going on here? Maybe your a slow learner [/quote]


Nope it doesn't. But you, of all people, shouldn't be making comments about this being a "little bitch" website seeings how you're the one who started the "female killers" post. And the drama that came along with it. It's hard for alot of people to swallow when a guys been at it for a grand total of about a year and they are admonishing them for killing a female. I also wasn't making it personal between you and I. I was asking a question. No reason for you to question my comprehension skills.