Idaho Wolves..Holy moly

liontracker · Post by **liontracker** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:57 pm

Because none of us hunters have that kind of money...millions with a capital M.

pegleg · Post by **pegleg** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:06 pm

Dale T wrote:
BoarHunter1 wrote:The size of them indicates that they are not in any way native or indigenous..

If this true, Why hasn't anybody filled a law suit to stop it?

I just read where they imported 10 Texas Mointain Lions to Florida to add genetic deversity to there "endangered Florida Panther", wouldn't this make them Florida/Texas hydrids and know longer Endaingered?

genetic test have already shown there is almost no difference genetically from the "Florida panther" and any other population of us panthers. however that doesn't have any star appeal or money making potential. so panther it is....

Riley Dabling · Post by **Riley Dabling** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:41 pm

Send em back to hell where they belong.

CkZona · Post by **CkZona** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:58 am

To the guy who thinks the pics were photoshoped, on some website i found that couple of those pics were. Wolves do not get as big and some of those pics show.

idahoutlaw · Post by **idahoutlaw** » Sun May 01, 2011 3:14 am

THE SECOND WOLF PIC WAS SHOOT IN CLEARWATER CO IDAHO NEAR ELK RIVER ID
THE MAN HOLDING IT UP IS 5' 8" HIS KID SHOT IT FEW HUNDERD YARDS OUT OF THE DEER CAMP IF I REMEMBER IT TIP THE SCALES AT 180 LBS. I CAN WALK NEXT DOOR AND ASK HIM IF ANYONE WANTS. THIS MAY BE ONE OF THE ONES THAT GOT JOSEPH DOGS A FEW WEEKS EARLIER.

P.W. Chapman · Post by **P.W. Chapman** » Sun May 15, 2011 1:31 pm

Pops wrote:fully mature canadian greys average 90-110 for males and 75-100 for females, that is over half of all mature adults are in that weight range. weights up to 130 are large but not unusual. past that weight is freak of nature huge and not normal. that said it doesn't matter what size they are they are not native to the yellowstone region nor OR, UT or WI, MN or MI and should be exterminated. IF wolves are to be introduced to a region they should be the type that originally lived there (like the reds in NC). nonnative invasive species should never be introduced on purpose by anyone but least of all by Govt officials that SHOULD know better.

Heck no! We don't even want the Reds here in NC. The only good to ever come from coyote invasion was the halt of new introductions in the Smokies thanks to "genetic pollution" from coyotes LOL.

desertdog · Post by **desertdog** » Sun May 15, 2011 4:07 pm

I just read an interesting book written by an old guy who punched cattle in the Panhandle of Texas in 1870-1905. He talked about hunting Wolves with dog's and described one of the local specie's as an "Artic Wolf' that was grey or Black and often weighed 150 lbs.He said they had followed the Buffalo herds down from the Northern regions. They would "pull down" full grown steers and start eating before the animal was even dead. There were also a variety called "Lobo's", which were large and powerful, although not as big as the Artic type. The dogs would "bay up" the Wolves and the hunters shot them. His dogs couldn't kill them and wouldn't even try. The Wolves were so bad that cattle couldn't be introduced to the Panhandle untill the wolf problem was solved. He also mentioned a pack of dogs who could easily run down and kill Wolves. They were sired by a "Kangaroo dog" imported from Australia that he described as "almost three feet across the shoulders", with a short, thick neck, who was crossed with a Greyhound bitch. The pack was comprised of dogs from this mating. It wasn't clear what type of wolf this pack was killing.

Riley Dabling · Post by **Riley Dabling** » Sun May 15, 2011 5:44 pm

Desertdog what is the name of the book. Sounds like a good read.

desertdog · Post by **desertdog** » Mon May 16, 2011 11:35 pm

"Life in the Saddle", by Frank Collinson...

Idaho Bison · Post by **Idaho Bison** » Tue May 31, 2011 2:03 am

State of Idaho did in an attempt to legally remove them claming native wolves existed. Court ruled in favor of Ed Bangs' definition of a native wolf population as 2 breeding pairs for two straight years. This didn't make sense as the reintroduction plan called for the removeal of intruced wolves if Native Wolves were verified within 90 days. IDFG knew of approximately 18 wolves and wolves were verified with in the 90 days with out reintroduced wolves being removed.

Dale T wrote:
BoarHunter1 wrote:The size of them indicates that they are not in any way native or indigenous..

If this true, Why hasn't anybody filled a law suit to stop it?

I just read where they imported 10 Texas Mointain Lions to Florida to add genetic deversity to there "endangered Florida Panther", wouldn't this make them Florida/Texas hydrids and know longer Endaingered?