Where was the CHC Today?
Re: Where was the CHC Today?
You're certainly welcome, kickemall. Thank you for your support and membership!
Re: Where was the CHC Today?
Kickemall,
I believe that Rifleman is the current President of CHC, and Rifleman why hasn't the web site been update? and who is supposed to be updating the web site? and why wasn't CHC at the comission meeting?
I believe that Rifleman is the current President of CHC, and Rifleman why hasn't the web site been update? and who is supposed to be updating the web site? and why wasn't CHC at the comission meeting?
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Peter Meyer
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Re: Where was the CHC Today?
Check out humanewatch.org these guys are on it. Anyways I am very curious to see how the commission votes in May. Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they are not out to get you. And trust me, the HSUS is out to destroy our way of life. They hate us, what we do, how we do it, what we stand for, what we represent. Don't let their seeming morally superior attitude and facade fool you. If you can tell me with a straight face that some of the tens of millions of dollars HSUS collects annually doesn't somehow trickle down to groups like the ALF (a domestic terrorist organization according to the FBI) then I'll eat a leash. The HSUS pisses me off. Royally. But I am figuring out that to be effective I have to put my baser emotions aside. I know how Davy Crockett and George Washington would handle them but today we live in a nice, clean, safe, antiseptic society where society at large shuns "bloodsports" and hunting but still buys their poultry and beef at the local market without a second thought as to where it really comes from. Threats or even perceived threats can lead to some serious trouble and as I am finding out, some groups are seriously afraid of us, and when someone even remotely sounds threatening warning flags are raised. Think Patriot Act. PeTA members throwing fake blood on fur wearers, well that is newsworthy on a national scale. In my opinion it is a hate crime and the perpetrators should be subject to federal justice. God knows if a houndsmen protested in a similar fashion the repercussions would be felt far and wide and highly detrimental to our cause. So what do you do? First, join and support the CHC. Put your opinions and politics aside and do it. There are other groups like COHA, CRPA, and the NRA that support us, but CHC is the stand alone group supporting houndsmen. I love this country and try to abide by its' laws and codes, but god help me I'll never stop hunting with my black and tans. They can keep me and my hounds out of the woods when they pry the leashes from my cold, dead hand. Enough said. -Pete
"Audentes fortuna juvat" - "Fortune favors the bold"
HSUS fun facts:
1) The Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) is a “humane society” in name only. It isn’t affiliated with any hands-on “humane society” organizations, and it doesn’t operate a single pet shelter or pet adoption facility anywhere. During 2008, HSUS contributed barely $450,000— less than one-half of one percent of its budget—in grants to dog and cat shelters. By comparison, that same year it gave $2.25 million to a political campaign committee behind an anti-meat ballot initiative in California, and put $2.5 million into HSUS’s executive pension plan. HSUS is the wealthiest animal-rights lobbying organization on earth. It agitates for the same goals as PETA and other radical groups, but uses fewer naked interns
2) Beginning on the day of NFL quarterback Michael Vick’s 2007 dogfighting indictment, HSUS raised money online with the false promise that it would “care for the dogs seized in the Michael Vick case.” The New York Times later reported that HSUS wasn’t caring for Vick’s dogs at all. And HSUS President Wayne Pacelle told the Times that his group urged government officials to “put down” (that is, kill) the dogs rather than adopt them out to suitable homes. HSUS later quietly altered its Internet fundraising pitch. Vick now gives HSUS “sponsored” speeches. And most of his dogs have been rehabilitated—without any help from HSUS.
3) HSUS’s senior management includes a former spokesman for the Animal Liberation Front (ALF), a criminal group designated as “terrorists” by the FBI. HSUS president Wayne Pacelle hired John “J.P.” Goodwin in 1997, the same year Goodwin described himself as “spokesperson for the ALF” while he fielded media calls in the wake of an ALF arson attack at a California veal processing plant. In 1997, when asked by reporters for a reaction to an ALF arson fire at a farmer’s feed co-op in Utah (which nearly killed a family sleeping on the premises), Goodwin replied, “We’re ecstatic.” That same year, Goodwin was arrested at a UC Davis protest celebrating the 10-year anniversary of an ALF arson at the university that caused $5 million in damage.
4) A 2008 Los Angeles Times investigation found that HSUS receives less than 12 percent of the money raised on its behalf by California telemarketers. Professional fundraisers keep the rest. If you exclude two campaigns run for HSUS by the “Builda-Bear Workshop” retail chain—which consisted of the sale of surplus stuffed animals (not really “fundraising”)—HSUS’s yield shrinks to just three percent. This is typical. In 2004, HSUS ran a telemarketing campaign in Connecticut with fundraisers who promised a return of “zero percent” of the proceeds. The campaign raised over $1.4 million. Not only did none of that money go to HSUS, but the group paid $175,000 for the telemarketing work. Similar filings exist in Massachusetts, New York, and other states. In 2008 HSUS collected more than $86 million in contributions, but spent more than $24 million on fundraising.
5) HSUS’s heavily promoted U.S. “boycott” of Canadian seafood—announced in 2005 as a protest against Canada’s annual seal hunt—is a phony exercise in media manipulation. A 2006 investigation found that 78 percent of the restaurants and seafood distributors described by HSUS as “boycotters” weren’t participating at all. Nearly two-thirds of them told surveyors they were completely unaware HSUS was using their names in connection with an international boycott campaign. Canada’s federal government is on record about this deception, saying: “Some animal rights groups have been misleading the public for years … it’s no surprise at all that the richest of them would mislead the public with a phony seafood boycott.” A documentary director also caught an HSUS film crew abusing a dying seal while they shot a 2007 fundraising video on the ice floes of Atlantic Canada.
6) HSUS raised $34 million in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, supposedly to help reunite lost pets with their owners. But comparatively little of that money was spent for its intended purpose. Louisiana’s Attorney General shuttered his 18-month-long investigation into where most of these millions went, shortly after HSUS announced its plan to contribute $600,000 toward the construction of an animal shelter on the grounds of a state prison. In 2009, Atlanta ABC affiliate WSB-TV reported that public disclosures of the disposition of the $34 million in Katrina-related donations added up to less than $7 million.
7) After gathering undercover video footage of improper animal handling at a Chino, CA slaughterhouse during November of 2007, HSUS sat on its video evidence for three months, even refusing to share it with the U.S. Department of Agriculture. HSUS’s Dr. Michael Greger may have perjured himself before Congress, testifying that the San Bernardino County (CA) District Attorney’s office asked the group “to hold on to the information while they completed their investigation.” The District Attorney’s office quickly denied that account, declaring that HSUS refused to make its undercover spy available to investigators if the USDA were present. Ultimately, HSUS chose to release its video footage at a politically opportune time, as it prepared to launch a livestock-related ballot campaign in California. Meanwhile, meat from the slaughterhouse continued to flow into the U.S. food supply for months.
"Audentes fortuna juvat" - "Fortune favors the bold"
HSUS fun facts:
1) The Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) is a “humane society” in name only. It isn’t affiliated with any hands-on “humane society” organizations, and it doesn’t operate a single pet shelter or pet adoption facility anywhere. During 2008, HSUS contributed barely $450,000— less than one-half of one percent of its budget—in grants to dog and cat shelters. By comparison, that same year it gave $2.25 million to a political campaign committee behind an anti-meat ballot initiative in California, and put $2.5 million into HSUS’s executive pension plan. HSUS is the wealthiest animal-rights lobbying organization on earth. It agitates for the same goals as PETA and other radical groups, but uses fewer naked interns
2) Beginning on the day of NFL quarterback Michael Vick’s 2007 dogfighting indictment, HSUS raised money online with the false promise that it would “care for the dogs seized in the Michael Vick case.” The New York Times later reported that HSUS wasn’t caring for Vick’s dogs at all. And HSUS President Wayne Pacelle told the Times that his group urged government officials to “put down” (that is, kill) the dogs rather than adopt them out to suitable homes. HSUS later quietly altered its Internet fundraising pitch. Vick now gives HSUS “sponsored” speeches. And most of his dogs have been rehabilitated—without any help from HSUS.
3) HSUS’s senior management includes a former spokesman for the Animal Liberation Front (ALF), a criminal group designated as “terrorists” by the FBI. HSUS president Wayne Pacelle hired John “J.P.” Goodwin in 1997, the same year Goodwin described himself as “spokesperson for the ALF” while he fielded media calls in the wake of an ALF arson attack at a California veal processing plant. In 1997, when asked by reporters for a reaction to an ALF arson fire at a farmer’s feed co-op in Utah (which nearly killed a family sleeping on the premises), Goodwin replied, “We’re ecstatic.” That same year, Goodwin was arrested at a UC Davis protest celebrating the 10-year anniversary of an ALF arson at the university that caused $5 million in damage.
4) A 2008 Los Angeles Times investigation found that HSUS receives less than 12 percent of the money raised on its behalf by California telemarketers. Professional fundraisers keep the rest. If you exclude two campaigns run for HSUS by the “Builda-Bear Workshop” retail chain—which consisted of the sale of surplus stuffed animals (not really “fundraising”)—HSUS’s yield shrinks to just three percent. This is typical. In 2004, HSUS ran a telemarketing campaign in Connecticut with fundraisers who promised a return of “zero percent” of the proceeds. The campaign raised over $1.4 million. Not only did none of that money go to HSUS, but the group paid $175,000 for the telemarketing work. Similar filings exist in Massachusetts, New York, and other states. In 2008 HSUS collected more than $86 million in contributions, but spent more than $24 million on fundraising.
5) HSUS’s heavily promoted U.S. “boycott” of Canadian seafood—announced in 2005 as a protest against Canada’s annual seal hunt—is a phony exercise in media manipulation. A 2006 investigation found that 78 percent of the restaurants and seafood distributors described by HSUS as “boycotters” weren’t participating at all. Nearly two-thirds of them told surveyors they were completely unaware HSUS was using their names in connection with an international boycott campaign. Canada’s federal government is on record about this deception, saying: “Some animal rights groups have been misleading the public for years … it’s no surprise at all that the richest of them would mislead the public with a phony seafood boycott.” A documentary director also caught an HSUS film crew abusing a dying seal while they shot a 2007 fundraising video on the ice floes of Atlantic Canada.
6) HSUS raised $34 million in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, supposedly to help reunite lost pets with their owners. But comparatively little of that money was spent for its intended purpose. Louisiana’s Attorney General shuttered his 18-month-long investigation into where most of these millions went, shortly after HSUS announced its plan to contribute $600,000 toward the construction of an animal shelter on the grounds of a state prison. In 2009, Atlanta ABC affiliate WSB-TV reported that public disclosures of the disposition of the $34 million in Katrina-related donations added up to less than $7 million.
7) After gathering undercover video footage of improper animal handling at a Chino, CA slaughterhouse during November of 2007, HSUS sat on its video evidence for three months, even refusing to share it with the U.S. Department of Agriculture. HSUS’s Dr. Michael Greger may have perjured himself before Congress, testifying that the San Bernardino County (CA) District Attorney’s office asked the group “to hold on to the information while they completed their investigation.” The District Attorney’s office quickly denied that account, declaring that HSUS refused to make its undercover spy available to investigators if the USDA were present. Ultimately, HSUS chose to release its video footage at a politically opportune time, as it prepared to launch a livestock-related ballot campaign in California. Meanwhile, meat from the slaughterhouse continued to flow into the U.S. food supply for months.
Bar K Black and Tans Placerville CA
"We must indeed all hang together, or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately" -Benjamin Franklin replying to John Hancock's remark that the revolutionaries should be unanimous in their action. July 4, 1776 at the signing of the Declaration of Independence
"We must indeed all hang together, or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately" -Benjamin Franklin replying to John Hancock's remark that the revolutionaries should be unanimous in their action. July 4, 1776 at the signing of the Declaration of Independence
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yeager
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Re: Where was the CHC Today?
For those that are misinformed, CHC did participate by discussing the matter at our last quarterly meeting.
If the DFG wants to raise the bear harvest quota in California then let their biologist professionals support their decisions.
What puzzles me is when fellow houndsmen argue and make waves instead of trying to unite all of us to defend our hunting heritage.
If you are not a member of CHC and you run hounds in California shame on you...
$20.00 a year donated to an organization staffed with volunteers that are willing to lead the fight to justify our existence against fully funded opposing groups is not much to ask for.
Support California Houndsmen for Conservation and don't bad mouth an organization that is making tremendous strides and partnerships.
If you continue to be misinformed then become a member and get the newsletter so that you can understand what CHC is doing...
Furthermore, I ask that you come to the next meeting and let us hear your voice so we can better represent members and discuss your concerns.
We as hunter's need to support one another...
If the DFG wants to raise the bear harvest quota in California then let their biologist professionals support their decisions.
What puzzles me is when fellow houndsmen argue and make waves instead of trying to unite all of us to defend our hunting heritage.
If you are not a member of CHC and you run hounds in California shame on you...
$20.00 a year donated to an organization staffed with volunteers that are willing to lead the fight to justify our existence against fully funded opposing groups is not much to ask for.
Support California Houndsmen for Conservation and don't bad mouth an organization that is making tremendous strides and partnerships.
If you continue to be misinformed then become a member and get the newsletter so that you can understand what CHC is doing...
Furthermore, I ask that you come to the next meeting and let us hear your voice so we can better represent members and discuss your concerns.
We as hunter's need to support one another...
"Semper Fidelis"
Re: Where was the CHC Today?
Dale,
I am the webmaster. The website hasn't been updated because I am wearing many other hats for CHC and my schedule has not allowed me to update the site. As previously indicated, PM me if you would like to know why CHC has not testified at the Commission meetings regarding this year's bear proposals.
Rifleman why hasn't the web site been update? and who is supposed to be updating the web site? and why wasn't CHC at the comission meeting?
I am the webmaster. The website hasn't been updated because I am wearing many other hats for CHC and my schedule has not allowed me to update the site. As previously indicated, PM me if you would like to know why CHC has not testified at the Commission meetings regarding this year's bear proposals.
Re: Where was the CHC Today?
What are the chances of having a CHC officer/rep at the Modesto Water Race/Field Trial to up date everybody, being as it will be the biggest crowd of houndsmen to get together since the Red bluff dinner. I just see it as a good chance for CHC to get some new blood and support for the fight.
Re: Where was the CHC Today?
Hi Dale,
When is their event? I'm not interested in the event, but would be willing to go down there to give folks an update on matters.
When is their event? I'm not interested in the event, but would be willing to go down there to give folks an update on matters.
Re: Where was the CHC Today?
Hi Dale,
When is their event? I'm not interested in the event per se, but would be willing to go down there to give folks an update on matters.
When is their event? I'm not interested in the event per se, but would be willing to go down there to give folks an update on matters.
Re: Where was the CHC Today?
it was two weeks agao 
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