Entitlement???"
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Big N' Blue
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Entitlement???"
What the heck is wrong here?
Remember, not only did you contribute to Social Security but your employer did too. It totaled 15% of your income before taxes. If you averaged only 30K over your working life, that’s close to $220,500. If you calculate the future value of $4,500 per year (yours & your employer’s contribution) at a simple 5% (less than what the govt. pays on the money that it borrows), after 49 years of working (me) you'd have $892,919.98. If you took out only 3% per year, you receive $26,787.60 per year and it would last better than 30 years, and that’s with no interest paid on that final amount on deposit! If you bought an annuity and it paid 4% per year, you'd have a lifetime income of $2,976.40 per month. The folks in Washington have pulled off a bigger Ponzi scheme than Bernie Madoff ever had.
Entitlement, where did they come up with that? I paid cash for my social security insurance!!!! Just because they borrowed the money, doesn't make my benefits some kind of charity or handout!! Congressional benefits, aka. free health care, outrageous retirement packages, 67 paid holidays, three weeks paid vacation, unlimited paid sick days, now that's welfare, and they have the nerve to call my retirement entitlements !!!!!!.....scroll down..............
Emergency Rooms for their general health care -At just one hospital the cost to tax payers totaled over 25 million a year!!!
Someone please tell me what the HECK is wrong with all the people that run this country!!!!!!
We're "broke" & can't help our own Seniors, Veterans, Orphans, Homeless etc.,???????????
In the last months we have provided aid to Haiti , Chile , and Turkey . And now Pakistan home of bin Laden. Literally, BILLIONS of DOLLARS!!!
Our retired seniors living on a 'fixed income' receive no aid nor do they get any breaks while our government and religious organizations pour Hundreds of Billions of $$$$$$'s and Tons of Food to Foreign Countries!
They call Social Security and Medicare an entitlement even though most of us have been paying for it all our working lives and now when it's time for us to collect, the government is running out of money. Why did the government borrow from it in the first place?
We have hundreds of adoptable children who are shoved aside to make room for the adoption of foreign orphans.
AMERICA: a country where we have homeless without shelter, children going to bed hungry, elderly going without 'needed' meds, and mentally ill without treatment -etc,etc.
YET......................
They have a 'Benefit' for the people of Haiti on 12 TV stations, ships and planes lining up with food, water, tents clothes, bedding, doctors and medical supplies.
Imagine if the *GOVERNMENT* gave 'US' the same support they give to other countries.
SAD?
YEAH, OK, SO WHEN DO WE GET TICKED OFF AND
DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?????
99% of people won't have the guts to forward this.
I'm one of the 1% -- I Just Did
Remember, not only did you contribute to Social Security but your employer did too. It totaled 15% of your income before taxes. If you averaged only 30K over your working life, that’s close to $220,500. If you calculate the future value of $4,500 per year (yours & your employer’s contribution) at a simple 5% (less than what the govt. pays on the money that it borrows), after 49 years of working (me) you'd have $892,919.98. If you took out only 3% per year, you receive $26,787.60 per year and it would last better than 30 years, and that’s with no interest paid on that final amount on deposit! If you bought an annuity and it paid 4% per year, you'd have a lifetime income of $2,976.40 per month. The folks in Washington have pulled off a bigger Ponzi scheme than Bernie Madoff ever had.
Entitlement, where did they come up with that? I paid cash for my social security insurance!!!! Just because they borrowed the money, doesn't make my benefits some kind of charity or handout!! Congressional benefits, aka. free health care, outrageous retirement packages, 67 paid holidays, three weeks paid vacation, unlimited paid sick days, now that's welfare, and they have the nerve to call my retirement entitlements !!!!!!.....scroll down..............
Emergency Rooms for their general health care -At just one hospital the cost to tax payers totaled over 25 million a year!!!
Someone please tell me what the HECK is wrong with all the people that run this country!!!!!!
We're "broke" & can't help our own Seniors, Veterans, Orphans, Homeless etc.,???????????
In the last months we have provided aid to Haiti , Chile , and Turkey . And now Pakistan home of bin Laden. Literally, BILLIONS of DOLLARS!!!
Our retired seniors living on a 'fixed income' receive no aid nor do they get any breaks while our government and religious organizations pour Hundreds of Billions of $$$$$$'s and Tons of Food to Foreign Countries!
They call Social Security and Medicare an entitlement even though most of us have been paying for it all our working lives and now when it's time for us to collect, the government is running out of money. Why did the government borrow from it in the first place?
We have hundreds of adoptable children who are shoved aside to make room for the adoption of foreign orphans.
AMERICA: a country where we have homeless without shelter, children going to bed hungry, elderly going without 'needed' meds, and mentally ill without treatment -etc,etc.
YET......................
They have a 'Benefit' for the people of Haiti on 12 TV stations, ships and planes lining up with food, water, tents clothes, bedding, doctors and medical supplies.
Imagine if the *GOVERNMENT* gave 'US' the same support they give to other countries.
SAD?
YEAH, OK, SO WHEN DO WE GET TICKED OFF AND
DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?????
99% of people won't have the guts to forward this.
I'm one of the 1% -- I Just Did
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mondomuttruner
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I agree with you 100%. What to do about it, I haven't got a clue. Just baffles my mind. Politics??????
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Ever watch the Zeitgeist films??? It's been this way for a long time.... Generation to generation. I think the last guy to get out of it was Jeremiah and ole' Grizz. Wait, that was a movie. Oh well, back to work...
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Im almost 55 years old and i remember my grandpa telling me when i started working that i would probly never see any social security. Im thinkn he was right. But i dont know how we can change it at this point.
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Big N Blue, i have felt for awhile that you were deserving of an award for some pretty dam good jokes in the laugh section. but it also appears you are also pretty dam good at simple mathmatics. all i can say is they put Jimmy Hoffa in prison, but at least he was trying to make intrest on a loan. even though it may have been a poor place to invest. our government are just plain theives!!! and we the people are getting tired of them pissing down our backs and telling us its just rain!! someone needs to make them aware that every dog has his day!! more and more people are getting s_ _ _ full of them!!! good luck and take care!
Cry to the heavens and let slip the dogs of war. For they must feed on the bones of tyranny. In order for men to have freedom and liberty
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Govt should be a working business. One that provides safety security health protection "not care, it's different" foreign policy and diplomacy, laws and enforcement. Then there's the services that people need in order to continue thriving. These are all things govt should provide. Not necessarily the fed govt. Most can and should be jurisdiction of the local offices. Why? Because we ask for it and pay for it. I call it purchases or investments at the very least. What to do about it be concerned and vocal because it sure works for special interest groups. We do need alternative candidates though. It has become a business in the wrong since fleecing americans. Both sides have a scheme we shouldn't settle for the lesser of two evils or the greatest such as obama has proven to be.
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It really makes me mad that the news media does everything in the world to vilify the Tea Party candidates as being on the fringe of society. Just common folks like you and me trying to make a living. As long as we keep putting up with this 2 party system that has been backed by the same money for years we will continue to go down hill. Who controls the media, controls the agenda and there are just not enough people paying attention and they vote and breed and have been conditioned to think that a college educations entitles them to high salarys. One world order is the agenda and they are using both partys to get to the goal while dumbing down the generations. I read an article the other day that more people in England think that Robin Hood was real and that Winston Churchill was a myth. I talked to a very intelligent talking college graduate not long ago that did not know who the first president of the U.S. was. These are the people that are voting!!!! Scary as hell. People should have to pass a civics test and a history and economics test before thay are allowed to vote and affect my life!
What to do about it will take another generation and it will require parents to make sure what our school curriculam is, and children should be taught dicipline and respect for others. This country has lost alot of its moral fibre by letting God be taken out of school. I read another article that 788 million of our tax dollares are being spent to refurbish mosques in Egypt and we are talking about cutting benefits that we have paid for. Bullshit, These people need to be tried for treason. Bernie Madoff was a saint compared to these incompetant buffoons!
Well, I guess i ranted enough, gotta make some money to be redistributed to whoever needs it.
PS Slowandeasy. thanks for the compliments on the jokes!
What to do about it will take another generation and it will require parents to make sure what our school curriculam is, and children should be taught dicipline and respect for others. This country has lost alot of its moral fibre by letting God be taken out of school. I read another article that 788 million of our tax dollares are being spent to refurbish mosques in Egypt and we are talking about cutting benefits that we have paid for. Bullshit, These people need to be tried for treason. Bernie Madoff was a saint compared to these incompetant buffoons!
Well, I guess i ranted enough, gotta make some money to be redistributed to whoever needs it.
PS Slowandeasy. thanks for the compliments on the jokes!
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Big n Blue, the one world order is without a doubt in every man, woman, and childs future. Our communist government from the president to the smallest ranking law enforcement officer are all enslaved by this terrible deception, and they will do the bidding of this agenda so long as they are able. The more rights the agenda takes away from the people, the more these individuals will cling to this agenda without question. Friend, I know exactly what you are talking about and where you are coming from. There will never again be a free nation unless we the people turn our backs on the monetary system and return to the values of yesterday. I am only 30 but I have lived long enough to learn that value is a relative idea, and unfortunately, people believe what they want to believe. I want to hang my head and sob when I think about what is in store for my grandkids.
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TomTom Our country would not be in the shape it is in today if more 30 year olds had your wisdom. I am 60 and both my children are American success stories. It will be up to you and my kids generation to instill the values and knowledge and hold people accountable for their actions. The entitlement mentality has to stop and the only thing that will stop it is to cut it off. SS, medicare and medicade are not entitlement programs for the people that have worked hard and paid into them. What the hell is our government doing giving our money away to people that have not earned it. One day they must be held accountable for thier actions. The ballot box is the peacefull solution,tomtom wrote:Big n Blue, the one world order is without a doubt in every man, woman, and childs future. Our communist government from the president to the smallest ranking law enforcement officer are all enslaved by this terrible deception, and they will do the bidding of this agenda so long as they are able. The more rights the agenda takes away from the people, the more these individuals will cling to this agenda without question. Friend, I know exactly what you are talking about and where you are coming from. There will never again be a free nation unless we the people turn our backs on the monetary system and return to the values of yesterday. I am only 30 but I have lived long enough to learn that value is a relative idea, and unfortunately, people believe what they want to believe. I want to hang my head and sob when I think about what is in store for my grandkids.
I pray that the communist and media have not indoctinated enough idiots to make it impossible to turn around. It is very important that every like minded individual try to educate the young. If they are to have any freedoms like my generation had, it will be up to them to preserve them. American is a mind set, not a race, creed or color. Have you noticed that the only racist people left are the ones getting the entitlements.
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Yes I have. The ones who are being rewarded right now are the ones that support the system, the ones who bear witness to the rights and benefits of those who do not question the agenda. They have no idea who they are holding the gates open for, and one day we will all be holding hands in poverty and fear wondering how this happened. No, we won't, because we won't know any different. Every ounce of money sent to a foreign land is one ounce of deadly virus for which there is no vaccine. I expect to see complete marshal law about the time the virus has spread to the intensity that it cannot be managed by these unsuspecting countries. My only hope is that greed holds true to its character and that will buy us some time. God bless their spirits, they are certainly going to need it. If there was a line, I'd cross it. If there was a button, I'd push it. But there isn't.
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The scary thing is that those people in positions of authority are brain washed by those in power and believe that grass roots organizations like the tea party are a national threat. The truth is they only threaten those who are steering our country over a cliff. I like most of you have some strong opinions on these topics. Maybe a simple reform of new political parties that are closed to any individual that has been a ranking member of either of the current parties would give us a chance to select and vote for our rep.s the way its supposed to be. I hope people educate themselves on these issues. Yes given the lies and misdirection of the media its difficult. But selecting a candidate because he's black and it'll make history is the poorest Reason. One by the way that I heard several times. If race is that big of issue pick one of the dozens of "non-whites" in the public eye who are QUALIFIED for the job. Community organizer is a polite term for shit stirrer, who profits from the chaos involved. Is that really what we need. Look at many of these politicos who're feeding off us.
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WOW!! Big N Blue i would have thought that this would have completely ran wild with replies. but than i got to thinking about that 1% of the population that you spoke of in your original post. i guess it is sad but true, people just accept everything from their representation from polititions to what they feed in their kennel. i guess it is the era of kumbya and anything floats. but, we sure as a country can't withstand four more years of this kind of change. take care!
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I may get beat up for this, but here it is. This isn't BO's fault although he does stink as a president. It's not the lack of GOD in schools. It's the parents job to teach morals, not GOD's or the schools job.
It isn't the senates fault or the house it is the people's fault. For the past 80+ years people have been lied to and the majority of them never sat down and analyzed what they were being told.
It is understandable though, it is human nature to let someone else provide for you whether it is food, health, safety etc. Not that government shouldn't have some oversite or say, but not the federal government as it is much easier to (beep) the people when you are a thousands of miles away from them. Nearly all the government provides MUST be done at the state level. That way, if it needs to be done, the state official can get booted out much easier than a federal official.
People need to stop following party lines and start listening to people like Ron and Rand Paul, Ludwig Van Mises, The Cato Institute, Friedrich Hayek and not these so called Tea Party, Republican, Democrat, Green Party or Blue Dog candidates as they are just shills for the statist and want nothing more than more spending, more debt, more war and more POWER.
The truth hurts and the remedy will be worse for a little while, but the prior ones have been right all along and if you research it, you will see that for yourself. If we follow what they propose we will be better off for it. Here's a clever video.
Fear the Boom and Bust" a Hayek vs. Keynes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nERTFo-Sk
End The Fed - as they will always keep loaning us more dollars with interest of course
Eliminate Federal regulations, taxes, etc and transfer the power as it was originally intended and Constitutionally authorized to the states.
Vote Ron Paul 2012 at least check him out and not what the mainstream media always reports, look at his voting history and why he did so. Then look at the candidates or reps who voted the other way and what happened with the legislation that they passed.
It isn't the senates fault or the house it is the people's fault. For the past 80+ years people have been lied to and the majority of them never sat down and analyzed what they were being told.
It is understandable though, it is human nature to let someone else provide for you whether it is food, health, safety etc. Not that government shouldn't have some oversite or say, but not the federal government as it is much easier to (beep) the people when you are a thousands of miles away from them. Nearly all the government provides MUST be done at the state level. That way, if it needs to be done, the state official can get booted out much easier than a federal official.
People need to stop following party lines and start listening to people like Ron and Rand Paul, Ludwig Van Mises, The Cato Institute, Friedrich Hayek and not these so called Tea Party, Republican, Democrat, Green Party or Blue Dog candidates as they are just shills for the statist and want nothing more than more spending, more debt, more war and more POWER.
The truth hurts and the remedy will be worse for a little while, but the prior ones have been right all along and if you research it, you will see that for yourself. If we follow what they propose we will be better off for it. Here's a clever video.
Fear the Boom and Bust" a Hayek vs. Keynes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nERTFo-Sk
End The Fed - as they will always keep loaning us more dollars with interest of course
Eliminate Federal regulations, taxes, etc and transfer the power as it was originally intended and Constitutionally authorized to the states.
Vote Ron Paul 2012 at least check him out and not what the mainstream media always reports, look at his voting history and why he did so. Then look at the candidates or reps who voted the other way and what happened with the legislation that they passed.
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May God preserve the second ammendment ... and high capacity clips, because that is going to be the only way to cull the rat bastards that are in control of this country. The President has nothing to do with it, he is just a puppet whoever he is, that is controlled by a committee of men who's time has come. It is not the people's fault, because who ever gets elected will be enslaved by this group, who ever they are. It is not human nauture to let others provide for one's self. Ever hear of survival of the fittest, or evolution? It is a state of brainwash, instilled from a young age by our school systems, television and the media. Ever read your children the book "too much TV"? Yep, for sure and certain let's transfer power to the individual states. That way nothing will be on a level playing field and maybe the south will reinstate slavery and we will not have to endure some two faced, 1/2 breed black bastard child of an illegal in the white house ever again. Next thing you know there will be an illegal mexican as President or maybe we will eventually default on our loans just like the rest of the world is starting to domino, and we can all be communist chinese subjects. Yep, let's just tear apart the best democracy that the world has ever seen...instead of culling what should have been culled, starting way back in the Eisenhower administration. I say cull all the corrupted control freeks before they get our guns, for if not, they sure and certain will and it will be the end of America. I volunteer right here and now to lead a battallion in the first charge. Take a long look back. History repeats itself because of the holier than thou, not in my backyard syndrome, that greed and power abundantly propogates. It is time for radical change...and I am not talking special interest groups either. Short of that, I agree with Pegleg 100%.
Greek root of politician => Poly meaning MANY....Tic meaning Blood sucking parasite....
Greek root of politician => Poly meaning MANY....Tic meaning Blood sucking parasite....
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Where's that damn button????
