inverted eyelids

catcher · Post by **catcher** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:10 pm

i recently bought a pup from a breeder and after about a week i noticed its eyelashes were growing towards the eye. i took him to the vet and she said he had inverted eyelids.
she also said that they could be fixed but the puppy had to be 6 months old before they would do the surgery. here is my question, are the problems with the eyes an indication that there may be other problems with him that you cant see as i have heard that inverted eyelids may mean that there was inbreeding involved. so if anybody has ever had a hound with the same problem iwould like to know if it hunted fine or if it should have been culled. he seems like a good pup up to now.

Melanie Hampton · Post by **Melanie Hampton** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:18 pm

I have a bloodhound with an inverted eyelid.. That is the only problem with her. It is hereditary.. I wouldn't worry about it much once it is fixed.. You might not want to breed the pup because it can pass it down but I don't see any reason to cull it..

They wait until six months old because the dog has reached closer to the size it will be when full grown. If they do it too young and the dog grows a lot then the eyelid will then be too small.

Hope that helps.

Black&TanMan1 · Post by **Black&TanMan1** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:05 am

are you talkin about inverted eyelashes or entropia of the eye lid?

Melanie Hampton · Post by **Melanie Hampton** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:04 am

Black&TanMan1 wrote:are you talkin about inverted eyelashes or entropia of the eye lid?

I was assuming he was talking about entropia of the eyelid.. That is what I was referring to.

catcher · Post by **catcher** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:21 pm

well i will give you a discription.
the problem is with the bottom eyelid. i cant see the eyelashes untill i roll the eyelid down. so they are always touching the eye which makes them water. my pup is also blood hound. i bought him to breed to my females to add nose power to my pack if after training he was hunting dog enough to be worthy of breeding. so i was wondering how dominant the trait is. because i dont think it would be cost effective to have to fix every pup i kept. thanks for the replys. maybe my description will help you with the advice you might give. thanks

driftwood blue · Post by **driftwood blue** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:53 pm

Ladycathunter gave you the straight scoop.. it is inherited. and if not repaired most likely will cause the eye to go blind. Not all dogs in a litter will be have the same genetics and pass it on but it is a chinch that the affected ones do.
I would get back with the breeder and see if they would make it right.
try to get a replacement if possible that does not have that problem..

houndsnmules · Post by **houndsnmules** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:14 am

I wouldn't line breed the dog, but a outcross with a dog that does not have it would probably be ok.

catcher · Post by **catcher** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:03 pm

thanks for the info breeder is going to pay for surgery. i wouldnt waste the time but i like him he is a very nice pup.
good to know that there is a chance that when outcrossed he may not pass it on.

Black&TanMan1 · Post by **Black&TanMan1** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:31 pm

Ladycat hunter where are you finding your info on entropia being genetic? I have a dog with it and have taken him to a veterinary opthamlmologist,who along with my regular vet told me flat out it was not ininherited trait. As well as every thing i have read about it on the internet. Know i maybe wrong, so if you could tell me were you found that it was an inherited trait pleas tell me so i can further investigate. Im not a breeder by any means but woulod really like to raise a litter out of this male, however if it is truly a inherited trait i would never breed this dog.
Catcher I will tell you they can help the dogs eyes out with the surgery but they will never be perfect. They will still get gunky and reguire extra maintenance. And more than likely the dogs eyesite will fail sooneer than that of a dogs without it. But my best dog has it, and it doesnt seem to efect his hunting ability,just his apperance.

Melanie Hampton · Post by **Melanie Hampton** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:32 pm

Black&TanMan1

I was actually told that by my vet and I know I had read it in a book about Bloodhounds. Seems they are very prone to it... I will also do some research on it...

Black&TanMan1 · Post by **Black&TanMan1** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:48 pm

I did some more checking on this and Im getting mixed answers.It seems they believe it is heretitary know, but havent seemed to be able to prove it.So you are correct on what you said. However the Vet did say that it would be Ok to breed a dog with it as long as it wasn't in the others genes. Meaning both dogs need to have the gene for it to be passed on. Of course this is only what his opinion of it is.

catcher · Post by **catcher** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 5:59 pm

my vet said it is hereditary as well. even when breed to another without it it will still show up in some of the pups. so i guess if breeding for our own purpose we could just keep the ones that didnt have it. i wonder how old they would be when you would first notice the problem.

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