Bear Aversion Dogs

[realdog]

here is how i got my cow dogs others have made similar crosses but there dogs for some reason look way different than my dogs like i said mine look like pure bred heelers just bigger. My father in law had a female heeler she came off a cattle station in ausstralia she was a bigger leggy style heeler lot more agile and good indurance not like these little short fat squaty hellers you see in the us today . He bred her to a bordercollie male dog that was a real leggy dog as well . Both of these dogs were great with people anyone could pet them . Next i got a pup out of this cross she was a female She was a great dog and handled great but needed to be alittle more agressive . Then i bred her to a male heeler of my boys . He got him from a guy we buy colts from. my sons dog was basiclly a one man dog he was medium size people could pet him if my son was there but , if some stranger came around our house when we wernt around he would bite the hell out of them. this dog of my boys was very protective. that is how we got what has worked to be the best cowdogs for us in our needs. the finished product we have now works perfect for us no complants from anyone that we have gave a pup to however most have gone to friends with similar life styles as mine . so here is a break down of the cross female heelerXmale bordercollie= female halfbreedXmale heeler= 1/4 bordercollie3/4heeler finished product.

[rhromm]

I have three KBD/treeing walker crossed dogs, but have not had time to mess with them any. Apparently a few guys use them to tree bears. I will soon see.

[newby]

I wouldn't let the "Bear Institute" influence your decision too terribly much...I live about 3 miles from them and they're your typical hippie, bear lovers. Seriously, all you gotta do is look at the picture on their homepage to know they don't know anything about training working dogs that get it done. I think in the right hands...the KBD's are gonna be a good fit for what you want, you can't deny the footage all over the web of them working bears over. Just like anything though, they have to work for YOU cause you're the one who has to put up with them. And just like any hound you're gonna buy, don't buy until you seem 'em in action. Good luck.

[albertaguy]

Thanks for the reply on this guys, very interesting and good responses. The KBD's scare me a little, I am not a dog whisperer, I can get by, but they seem to take a lot of training. I think I am leaning towards the Mountain Cur, but am still undecided as of yet. Gotta decide soon, bears will out and about in a few months and be needing assistance leaving the Camps.

Thanks again everyone, all advice is greatly appreciated.

[ulf.bonas]

I think you should look for a Laika !

[albertaguy]

Interesting. Why? I have never heard of anyone using one.

[ulf.bonas]

A breed thats growing bigger for each year her in sweden and are very popular as a bear-dog. They are used on numerous of species here: badger, bear, moose, cappercaile, black grouse, wild boar, lynx and marten.
Twenty years ago they were a small breed and mostly there were people who wanted a little bit less "running" in there dogs that use them when hunting moose. But when both the wildboar and bear population increasing the last years they been more popular.
Laika is a tough dog who many times turn to a "one man hound" and love the handler an do anything for you.

The swedish club.

http://www.laikaklubben.se/

I suppose you know that its an russian dog and use to cold condition.
Best regards Uffe

[double j]

You might want to talk to Mr. Paco Jack on here. He deals with problem bears for a living.

[lepcur]

I read this entire post and never once heard anyone mention the leopard cur. These dogs are smart like a yard dog and want to please yet have a good nose and will stick with whatever track you put them on and be there when you get there. Check them out, I think they would be what the doctor ordered.

[albertaguy]

I sent a PM to Paco Jack, seems like a real nice guy, he advises he does not deal with problem bears in Camps or work sites. He hunts them.

I do have a Catahoula now, she is a good dog, but I have issues I'd like to correct with my next dogs. I have owned 4 Catahoulas, the first two wouldn't hunt, the next one was killed by a vehicle and the one I have now is getting old. She was very hard to train, wouldn't ever recall and refused to bark on game she found dead. She would just keep going after chewing it up a little. SWhe is very loyal and works close to me, which I like. The other big fault is that they have a hard time in our weather up here, it gets too cold for them.

I do appreciate the tips though from everyone, thanks to everybody who has responded.