Presidency

[Big N' Blue]

PRESIDENCY
SOME WILL APPRECIATE THIS AND SOME WILL NOT.
HOWEVER, ALL OF IT IS TRUE.
After 29 months of Obama ...
Here's your change!
January 2009 TODAY % chg Source
Avg.. Retail price/gallon gas in U.S. $1.83 $3.44 84% 1
Crude oil, European Brent (barrel) $43..48 $99..02 127.7% 2
Crude oil, West TX Inter. (barrel) $38..74 $91..38 135.9% 2
Gold: London (per troy oz.) $853.25 $1,369.50 60.5% 2
Corn, No.2 yellow, Central IL $3.56 $6.33 78.1% 2
Soybeans, No. 1 yellow, IL $9.66 $13..75 42.3% 2
Sugar, cane, raw, world, lb.Fob $13..37 $35..39 164.7% 2
Unemployment rate, non-farm, overall 7.6% 9.4% 23.7% 3
Unemployment rate, blacks 12.6% 15.8% 25.4% 3
Number of unemployed 11,616,000 14,485,000 24.7% 3
Number of fed. Employees 2,779,000 2,840,000 2.2% 3
Real median household income $50,112 $49,777 -0.7% 4
Number of food stamp recipients 31,983,716 43,200,878 35.1% 5
Number of unemployment benefit recipients 7,526,598 9,193,838 22.2% 6
Number of long-term unemployed 2,600,000 6,400,000 146.2% 3
Poverty rate, individuals 13.2% 14.3% 8.3% 4
People in poverty in U.S. 39,800,000 43,600,000 9.5% 4
U.S.. Rank in Economic Freedom World Rankings 5 9 n/a 10
Present Situation Index 29.9 23.5 -21.4% 11
Failed banks 140 164 17.1% 12
U.S.. Dollar versus Japanese yen exchange rate 89.76 82.03 -8.6% 2
U.S.. Money supply, M1, in billions 1,575.1 1,865.7 18.4% 13
U.S.. Money supply, M2, in billions 8,310.9 8,852.3 6.5% 13
National debt, in trillions $10..627 $14..052 32.2% 14

Just take this last item: In the last two years we have accumulated national debt at a rate more than 27 times as fast as during the rest of our entire nation's history.
Over 27 times as fast. Metaphorically speaking, if you are driving in the right lane doing 65 MPH and a car rockets past you in the left lane.
27 times faster, it would be doing 7,555 MPH!
Sources:
(1) U.S. Energy Information Administration; (2) Wall Street Journal; (3) Bureau of Labor Statistics; (4) Census Bureau; (5) USDA; (6) U.S. Dept. Of Labor;
(7) FHFA; (8) Standard & Poor's/Case-Shiller; (9) RealtyTrac; (10) Heritage Foundation and WSJ; (11) The Conference Board; (12) FDIC;
(13) Federal Reserve; (14) U.S. Treasury
So, tell me again, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant and impressive? Can't think of anything? Don't worry. He's done all this in 29 months -- so you'll have one year to come up with an answer. Every statement in this email is factual and directly attributable to Barrack Hussein Obama. Every bumble is a matter of record and completely verifiable.

EVERYONE SHOULD READ THIS...
I WONDER HOW MANY WILL FORWARD THIS ?
"You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out."

[Dale T]

Well that explains why all we have left in our pockets is change!

[Grzyadms4x4]

He's bought and paid for by corporations. Just as: George Bush 2 was, Clinton was, Bush 1 was, and Reagan was....

It's no lack of "smarts" from any of these presidents. It's a lack of principles and understanding of inflation, the business cycle, the Federal Reserve and the fact that the government has been meddling in our "free market" economy subsidizing various sectors to OUR detriment while they and their cronies profit from our peril.

But as long as we keep voting for the smooth talker, the tough guy that will keep us safe, the good looker or whomever makes us feel all warm and fuzzy inside WE GET WHAT WE DESERVE as we were warned by the founding fathers what would happen without vigilance!

[Bearkiller]

Zach, I agree with you on this but I am willing to take a slightly different view on the reasoning. I believe it's primarily a lack of transparency and political education. I think it's in large part the medias fault. They either aren't covering whats REALLY happening because they have an agenda or they are too busy trying to be the news and insert opinion to report what the politicians are doing. I am kind of a news junky and I can't believe how much is missed/ignored by the media. Including Fox news and talk radio. They are all so busy telling us who can and can't be elected or what can and can't be done, they can't possibly report the required facts. Hopefully with the internet we can get some of that back. Of course they are on their way to regulating that, as well. The first ammendment was put in place so the media can help citizens keep government in check. Now it's mostly used to put down christians and protect pornographers. The media needs to do their jobs so the people can do theirs.

[Big N' Blue]

Bearkiller!! You can ride my range anytime. Sorry Griz, Ron Paul is not the answer.

Although I do agree with alot that he says. Let's not turn this into an argument, as I beleive all of us want to have our country back from the socialist, marxist pigs. To get that done will require bringing God back into our country and demanding personal responsibility. JMHO VOTE ANYBODY BUT OBAMA! AND GET THESE COMMUNIST OUT OF OUR CONGRESS AND SENATE! KILL A WOLF WHEN YOU GET A SHOT!!!!

[Grzyadms4x4]

Great points guys. No argument from me. I would also add a couple of things to your list bearkiller. The lack of civics taught by parents and our schools don't help much either. Also, television. It is probably one of our biggest problems. Trust me, I like to watch occasionally, but for most it's their LIFE. Wake up, go to work, get home, watch tv, watch tv in bed, rinse, wash and repeat. When people used to read more our society benefited as people had the ability to get a grasp of topics instead of hearing little one minute soundbites of the issues. I agree, maybe with the internet things will change.

But if you think for a minute we ALL would have more time to learn(if we wanted to) if the federal reserve hadn't devalued the purchasing power, via inflation (a hidden tax) by 95% or so since 1913 which made it an absolute necessity that both parents enter the workforce simply to get by.

Big n Blue, I do not see ANYONE but Ron Paul addressing the issues, honestly, without the typical pandering or fear mongering to certain demographic groups. Gingrich, Obama, Romney all get campaign contributions from the very companies that caused the financial crisis. I see it like this. What is the worst that could happen with Ron Paul as president.

We get a 4 year break on draconian legislation. A 4 year break on unconstitutional wars. A 3 year break on adding to our national debt. Works for me.

All I see with the others is more DEBT and definitely, more war. What is your take on the other candidates, aside from Obama as we all have seen him in action.

[Big N' Blue]

Griz, we are not far apart. I agree with alot with what Dr. Paul says, except for his foreign policies.
As for as the candidates we have to choose from, I am a Gingrich supporter as I feel he has matured and been tempered by experience. Is he perfect, no. But no one is. This will be a very important election! We must get Obama out of office if we are to recognize the country I grew up in. We need to get God back in our schools and parents need to teach their kids personal responsibility. The USA can survive an Obama presidency, but it cannot survive uninformed voters voting themselves benefits from hardworking families. Have a good week end and pray for our country. Corporations are not evil. Making money is not evil. If Gingrich did get elected the best thing he could do is put Ron Paul Chairman of the Fed!! LOL That would shake up the establishment!! Santorum either VP or Attorney General.

Take care!

David Sudduth

[Grzyadms4x4]

The foreign policy seems to be most people's hang up with Ron Paul. That is unfortunate as the media hasn't been honest about this whatsoever. I don't see what is so wrong about not getting entangled in foreign "alliances" but smashing any country that dare attack us into smitherines. Seems rather logical and Christian to me. All empires fail and ours will too. The writing is on the wall and the chickens are coming home to roost. Israel can take care of herself, their Prime Minister said so in many more words in his address to congress last year.

You are right, we must get the crap out of congress. Our country will not work this way. It is almost defacto dictatorship with no representation what so ever.

I think you really hit the nail on the head with personal responsibility as once people are more responsible for taking care of themselves they will want government to shrink. Government doesn't like that though. Sorry, I'll have to disagree with you on corporations. SOME corporations are evil. The strict corporate charter laws that were enacted in the states early in our countries life were a direct result of the abuses that had been inflicted on the colonist and they worked great for about a hundred years thereafter, until big money corrupted the policymakers.

If Ron Paul was elected chairman of the Federal Reserve Board they would probably kill him. I honestly wish you luck with Gingrich getting elected, but without the people that support Ron Paul's ideas NO republican will get elected and there is a very real chance that if he went 3rd party he would win as he gets more support from independents and democrats than any other republican candidate. And we all know he gets more support from the military than all of the other candidates combined. Funny thing is he also gets more support from government workers than any other republican candidate although Obama receives the most. Wonder why?

I have enjoyed discussing this with you. Hopefully no matter who gets elected things in our great country will take a turn for the better. Take care and good luck on the trail.

Zach

[slownsteady]

Bearkiller!! You can ride my range anytime. Sorry Griz, Ron Paul is not the answer.

Although I do agree with alot that he says. Let's not turn this into an argument, as I beleive all of us want to have our country back from the socialist, marxist pigs. To get that done will require bringing God back into our country and demanding personal responsibility. JMHO VOTE ANYBODY BUT OBAMA! AND GET THESE COMMUNIST OUT OF OUR CONGRESS AND SENATE! KILL A WOLF WHEN YOU GET A SHOT!!!!

Can you explain to me how voteing for a Morman for president will bring God back into our government?
How voteing the same policies that almost destroyed our country back in is going to change anything?
I agree the obstructionist in the congress must be voted out but we need to wake up and quit believing all the crap we are being sold from the news medias .If your getting all your news from fox or for that matter msnbc your being brainwashed .You need to research and form your own opinions.
Single issue voteing is letting them lead us around like sheep.
As for gas price I remember paying $4.34 a gallon in rock springs wy .and filling my tank just before the election. Yes gas is too high but that was also under the last administration .Aug 10 the day before the towers fell it was 1.86 in springfield il.
A lot of our problems stem fron fighting a oil war was based on lies and not getting the oil.
Figures can look conviencing but you have to get to the bottom of the cause in order to understand them.
Grains high because were turning it into fuel and it takes gas to produce it.And transport it.Also farmers are exporting crops.
Oils high because of increased world demand and the fact we destabilized the mid-east by removing Hussain and the entire reigon is in chaos.
Add to that that almost everyone in the oil industry is screwing us because of lack of regulation and that about sums it up.

[Smiley]

Bearkiller!! You can ride my range anytime. Sorry Griz, Ron Paul is not the answer.

Although I do agree with alot that he says. Let's not turn this into an argument, as I beleive all of us want to have our country back from the socialist, marxist pigs. To get that done will require bringing God back into our country and demanding personal responsibility. JMHO VOTE ANYBODY BUT OBAMA! AND GET THESE COMMUNIST OUT OF OUR CONGRESS AND SENATE! KILL A WOLF WHEN YOU GET A SHOT!!!!

Can you explain to me how voteing for a Morman for president will bring God back into our government?

Can you explain what you mean by this? then maybe someone can explain what it is you are trying to ask .

[slownsteady]

Bearkiller!! You can ride my range anytime. Sorry Griz, Ron Paul is not the answer.

Although I do agree with alot that he says. Let's not turn this into an argument, as I beleive all of us want to have our country back from the socialist, marxist pigs. To get that done will require bringing God back into our country and demanding personal responsibility. JMHO VOTE ANYBODY BUT OBAMA! AND GET THESE COMMUNIST OUT OF OUR CONGRESS AND SENATE! KILL A WOLF WHEN YOU GET A SHOT!!!!

Can you explain to me how voteing for a Morman for president will bring God back into our government?

Can you explain what you mean by this? then maybe someone can explain what it is you are trying to ask .

Sent you a pm read the articles of faith number 13

[Grzyadms4x4]

Faith or lack thereof should have no part whatsoever in choosing any president. Faith clouds the mind with emotion making logical thought impossible. Leave faith out of politics and look at what they say and compare against what they do. We do not need God back in our country, we already have enough Sunday Christians out there as it is. We need a parent that can spend more time with their children to have the time to instill morals. But unfortunately due to the Fed most are debt slaves and don't realize that their are the donkey with a carrot in front of their nose. More people should really read George Washington's farewell address he advised us and we ignored him after he devoted his life to this republic.

Full Version
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/washing.asp

Cliffnotes
http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyameric ... /farewell/

[papa]

"Faith clouds the mind and makes logical thought impossible". Would you care to elaborate on that assinine statement, or are we supposed to accept it as fact simply because you said it? Logical thought certainly does'nt precede a totally illogical statement!

[Grzyadms4x4]

It's getting late, but I'll try to elaborate coherently, you've been warned. Here goes. Does not matter if it is religion or not. Religion evokes emotion. Religion is something that some people hold very close to them and when they feel that their faith is being threatened they get EMOTIONAL and do irrational things. Like invade countries or vote for whomever they think will keep them safe from them Muslums.

While giving up large portions of their civil rights, e.g. Patriot Act, NDAA, Enemy Expatriation Act, etc. Religion is one of the easiest tools by which to manipulate a given demographic with the correct propaganda.

Shariah law, saying Barack HUSSEIN Obama. Just to remind you he's one of THEM and not a christian. Did you ever hear anyone put an emphasis on George Bush's middle name? Clinton, Reagan. No you didn't

When it comes to electing leaders we shouldn't give a rats ass if they are a muslum, a christian or jewish. If they are American citizens then they are American and that is what matters to me. Every faith however much they may differ in substance all include the golden rule, even islam.

What we need from our leaders is honesty, transparency and statesmanship. Yet all we get are candidates that pander to the christians, right to lifers, the gays or anti gays, the unions, etc, to suite their needs, get their votes, promising everything to everybody. Never do they tell the truth, it is obvious, yet people vote for them because of EMOTION.

That candidate made them FEEL safe from those islamic terroist under their bed, another emotion, or he's going to get us jobs, which makes me FEEL better about the future. Honestly, the last damn thing we need in government right now is more (beep) religion. More people have died throughout history in the name of god than for any other reason and christians ain't exempt!

We're staring down the barrel of a loaded debt bomb and people are worried about abortion, gay marriage, who debates the best or Iran. Seriously, when we hear McCain state "I'm serious about our debt, lets eliminate the dollar bill for coins, it'll save 5 billion over 30 YEARS", 30 YEARS you gotta be shittin me. That is about 1.4 billion more than our national debts interest payment for 1 month. Just interest.

“By moving from the costly dollar bill to the dollar coin, we can save real money and show the American taxpayer that we are serious about cutting spending in Washington,” said McCain.

Or the "budget cuts" that our congress proposes. You probably know, but they are only cuts on future spending. They do not take anything off of the budget. Then they stretch it out to be taken off of future spending over a term of 10 years and they are flat out bullshitting the American public. Yet people keep voting for them, because they FEEL like that representative is serious about the debt.

It is obvious who I would prefer president, but kid yourself not it isn't the man, it's the message. Honesty about the issues and the steps to fix them. No BS.

So you guys keep electing people that are going to protect your religion or prevent gays from doing whatever the hell they do, or who will put a bases on mars in his third term as emperor. I'll vote for the ones that are honest about our issues and have solid plans to fix them without pandering for donations, selling out for the highest $$ or promising me that everything is going to be ok. Cuz it aint!

Good night, sleep tight, don't let the iranians bite.

[Trueblue]

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising them the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over a [lousy] fiscal responsibility, always followed by a dictatorship. The average of the world’s great civilizations before they decline has been 200 years. These nations have progressed in this sequence: From (1) bondage to spiritual faith; from (2) spiritual faith to great courage; from (3) courage to liberty; from (4) liberty to abundance; from (5) abundance to selfishness; from (6) selfishness to complacency; from (7) complacency to apathy; from (8) apathy to dependency; from (9) dependency back again to bondage.”

– Alexander Tyler, in his 1770 book, Cycle of Democracy

I think it is readily apparent to all except the willingly ignorant,that spiritual faith was the motivation by which this country was founded and the lack there of will be the reason for its demise.

George Washington referred to the United States as “a great experiment.” And in his farewell address he said, “Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports.”

“Is there no virtue among us? If there be not, we are in a wretched situation. No theoretical checks—no form of government can render us secure. To suppose that any form of government will secure liberty or happiness without virtue in the people is a chimerical [an illusion or fabrication of the mind] idea.” And “Democracies have always been spectacles of turbulence and contention and as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.”

– James Madison

“Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom.”

– Benjamin Franklin

“We have no government armed with powers capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice [greed], ambition, revenge or gallantry would break the strongest cords of our constitution as a whale goes through a net.”

– John Adams

“Can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis? A conviction in the minds of the people, that these liberties are a gift of God? That they are not violated but with his wrath?”

– Thomas Jefferson

“Men are not flattered by being shown that there has been a difference of purpose between the Almighty and them. To deny it, however, in this case, is to deny that there is a God governing the world.”

– Abraham Lincoln, March 15, 1865, letter to Thurlow Weed
one month before his assassination