Bloodhound as a cat dog?

[foxcat]

well it sounds like she has a good owner. good luck and good hunting

[david]

well it sounds like she has a good owner. good luck and good hunting

I dont get to get on here much anymore, but I enjoyed your thread DeVuono. I like it because you obviously love your dog, and are excited about what she might enjoy doing. You like her, she likes you, and she likes chasing stuff. Just go out and have as much fun with her as you can. Lifes too short to be so darn serious all the time. If you were trying to make a living at this, I would say reveiw every word foxcat said, and treat it like the bible. Memorize it and do it. But you just want to have some fun with your dog and let her have some fun, so please keep us posted, it is fun for us too.

Foxcat,
I can cut her on a track and she runs in on it a short ways, then does something I call the Bear stance. She stands up on her hind haunches, sticks her nose straight up in the air then cuts straight to the chase... Maybe she'll never run a Mountain lion...

That sounds like a trait to hold on to. IF she actually leaves the scent trail to get to the source of that scent, and cuts there silent, you just might catch anything with that dog. IF you see that trait strong in her pups, you might have a gold mine there. I dont know where that came from in your dog, but I love that trait and have had to go to mixed bred dogs to find it. If you could bring it to the pure bred hound world, there would be a lot more pure bred hounds I might want to own.

It is brains overcoming that powerful mesmerising scent trail instinct. In young dogs it can make them end up looking like fools. It is a powerful tool, and powerful tools in the hands of youngsters can yeild undesirable results. But as they mature and learn how to control it and use it properly, powerful tools yeild powerful results. Some great prospects have been culled because the trainer did not understand this trait. I have personally seen examples of this. Then some one who is a little more outside the box gets the dog, and it makes the most remarkable game catcher they ever saw.

I thought you had been asking about bobcat, and I agree 100% with fox cat and hip shooter on that topic. But if you are talking mountain lion, I cant see any reason why you could not experience success on the right hunt with a blood hound.

Good luck, and most of all, have fun, and keep us posted. There sure have been days when I was wishing for the cold trailing ability of a bloohound.

[blondbeard]

you probably answerd this already but were did you get your girl, i have sat here and bred the tightest,and littlest dogs to make my breeding bitches and now want to breed alittle bloody in. I just need to find a male pup that I can train. thx

[david]

Hey I just realized from your other thread that you are talking about hunting bobcat in Michigan. So that opens up more possibilities.

You see, where Foxcat comes from shooting a moving cat is a mortal sin. You would be more quickly forgiven for shooting your mother in law. But anywhere east of the Mississippi, all bets are off. You have heard of the state of Wisconsin? It used to be called Wiscon, until they started shooting moving cats on the ground. And by now, the name change stuck and it is just the accepted way of life. Lucky for you, because there you are right next to them.

That dog of yours can keep a bobcat moving, and once you figure out how they move, it is just another day rabbit hunting for bobcats.

The west coast treeing tradition-- --The upper midwest ground-sleuce tradition
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[broncobilly]

Steven Montague(sp) used to catch pretty much what ever he wanted to with his bloodhounds. I don't remember him specifically mentioning bobcats but he did catch grizzly, black bear, and lion with them. Knowing the country he hunted in, I would bet he caught some bobcats also. You might find it interesting to read his book "Meet Mr. Grizzly". He has quite a bit in it about how bloodhounds work a scent, as well as about training them.

Good luck and keep us posted on how it works for you.

Bill A. Brockman

[Jlhoutfitters]

Hey i have a ten month old male reged blood. and is by no means slow he drifts track like a bugger though wich as he gets older will be great and help him move it quicker but right now i have a problem with him blowing tracks at turns or log crossings. as that grows out of him he will be the fastest track moveing dog ive seen not the fastest as far as speed but geting the track and cat jumped. and as a cat dog in MI. i like a silent tracker wich he is. cats here will run run run and tree then bail and run but if they get surprised by the dog they will more likely tree quick and in a area they might not feel comfortable bailing from . and with my hound treeing is not a problem no tree agression and had the instinct with out help but get ur pup around other hounds and cagged coon early so if they get agressive there ass gets whipped and that crap will stop. the best thing about the blood is they are so track specifict and i have trailed wounded deer through a deer yard and he stayed on that blood trail even when i couldnt see it and the next day ran him in on a cyote chase and he didnt break on deer basicaly give them something and thats what they will run not trashy at all. but i would deff. lead the dog on track till they no for sure what there on and then dumpem when there pullin and hard on track.

[DeVuono311]

Hey All,
Thanks for the input. Its is WELL appreciated!

you probably answerd this already but were did you get your girl, i have sat here and bred the tightest,and littlest dogs to make my breeding bitches and now want to breed alittle bloody in. I just need to find a male pup that I can train. thx

I ordered Maybell through another breeder here in Michigan. They breed bloodhounds and also run theirs on bear up in Canada. I actually used one of their studs when I bred my bitch in July. Maybell is from Terry Dillon out of Missourri, however, Mountain Crest Bloodhounds is the breeder I found her through up in Marion, MI. If you decide you are looking for just a stud, let me know. I know of a young pup up in the up they are talking about studding out but that wont be until this summer atleast. Thanks again guys!

[StrawberryMt]

Andy Sippl in Birnamwood,Wi has a line of registered bloodhounds that have been the embarassment of many a walker,plott etc as far as speed goes.(Me included) His stud dog jake is the goofiest looking bastard tell he comes across the road in that lope of his,30 seconds ahead of your fastest dog.Bear,bobcats,coyotes it don't matter what season.They are more of a sleak built dog.

[foxcat]

Andy Sippl in Birnamwood,Wi has a line of registered bloodhounds that have been the embarassment of many a walker,plott etc as far as speed goes.(Me included) His stud dog jake is the goofiest looking bastard tell he comes across the road in that lope of his,30 seconds ahead of your fastest dog.Bear,bobcats,coyotes it don't matter what season.They are more of a sleak built dog.

I am going to have to call bs on this. There is no way a bloodhound is faster on track than a trigg, or trigg cross. Would never happen, plain and simple.

[chucktaylor]

Successful bobcat hunters can,t be wrong.
There are a number of bobcat hunters around the country that catch
50 to 300 cats a year on dry ground.
Ask them what breed of dogs they use.
99% use the same breed.
I would say this will answer about any question u might have on the subject.
This is dry ground, not snow, with a high cat population.

Wat breed is that?

[idahowest]

I have a blood hound that Leo Dollins wanted me to hunt and try his nose against his plotts. He was slow to get going but once he figured it out he does real well. He is not the fastest dog but he is always at the tree and he does good on bay-ups. He also trees really well. Leo said he was registered bloodhound. He would tree his own lion fine, and strikes and runs bear good. I don't notice a difference in his nose than these other dogs. I like my own dogs, but wouldn't be afraid of putting time into one as long as it wasn't to big.

[Tim Pittman]

ChuckTaylor---they're refering to the Walker/Running Dog cross,but not just any running breed,but certain traits,open or tight mouth.Anyway the list goes on.
Tim

[StrawberryMt]

Andy Sippl in Birnamwood,Wi has a line of registered bloodhounds that have been the embarassment of many a walker,plott etc as far as speed goes.(Me included) His stud dog jake is the goofiest looking bastard tell he comes across the road in that lope of his,30 seconds ahead of your fastest dog.Bear,bobcats,coyotes it don't matter what season.They are more of a sleak built dog.

I am going to have to call bs on this. There is no way a bloodhound is faster on track than a trigg, or trigg cross. Would never happen, plain and simple.

Your right I made it up.Just trying to help.Havent you ever heard of never say never.Just call Andy and Take whatever you want up and run with old Jake.That sumbitch catches more than his fair share of coyotes on the ground without being ground sluiced.

[papa]

There is always the exception to the rule when it comes to dogs. You sure won't lose much trying this dog. Sounds like she has some decent potential. After you get everybodies opinion, the only way to know is to get her out there and let her hunt. Probably won't take long to determine the truth about her.

[chucktaylor]

just to let yall no this aint my post. i dnt no how it got on mine