What to do when ?

Unreal_tk · Post by **Unreal_tk** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:16 pm

Ok now then let's say for the benefit of this post this is the scenario.

Driving down the road, roading dogs or boxing and you get a strike from a young dog. Now then this might be trash in your mind as always but you go againist your better judgement and turn loose. All the dogs head out and your old dogs tattle(but late) but the young ones get out of range to quick for the tritronics(over a ridge), and when you get on the ridge they are headed back or stopped some and a few you can nail. How do you punish the offenders who didn't get caught?

slowandeasy · Post by **slowandeasy** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:38 pm

i would call them over to me and politely tell them ok i know what you did, and if it happens again i will put you in time out

whoa! before everyone goes ballistic, i know everyone is a little touchy as of late, i am joking.

if you have already corrected this problem in the past, sometimes a stern talkin to lets them know that they have done wrong. if they are hard headed or ya haven't had the chance to give an attitude adjustment you will have to wait for another chance. don't be worryed you will get your chance to aggresively make your point. take care

dwalton · Post by **dwalton** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:53 pm

Reward them for coming back. You will have to wait on correcting them when the timing is right. Shock yourself for letting it happen. Ever time you let them get away it is going to be harder to correct. You are in charge here, you made the mistake not the dogs. Dewey

henpeck · Post by **henpeck** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:09 pm

I would have to wait til there was a next time, as long as they sounded good doing it

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henpeck · Post by **henpeck** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:15 pm

Oops wasn't finished. Like Dewey said, hit your self with about a level 3. Think I'll just tone myself for hitting the send button to soon... Though

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Unreal_tk · Post by **Unreal_tk** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:18 pm

Good points. My dogs haven't goten away with it in awhile but I was just thinking what I should do if this was to happen. Although it is tough to catch them in the act early season here. I did however catch mine twice this winter. Both times I put them out on frozen bobcat tracks, hit a hot coyote and three ridges later id catch up and nail em.

kickemall · Post by **kickemall** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:35 pm

I'm a little different about this scenario. Unless they are pups that haven't been on anything good, I would take them back to where they started it or crossed a road and give them a going over. NEVER let them get away with it.

dwalton · Post by **dwalton** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:28 pm

Dave: Do you think by taking them back that they know what you are correcting them for? It seems like they would have a hard realizing what was going on. Except for dog fights and barking I have a safe zone around me ,If a dog is within 15 feet of me he is never corrected. I reward a dog for being with me not correcting him. Dewey

Unreal_tk · Post by **Unreal_tk** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:42 pm

I was hoping someone would bring that idea up. (Sorry Dave) I am curious of any negatives that could come from doing that. I would more than likely consider doing it if I knew the track was right there and they weren't drifting it. I can see the positive of making a point to the dog.

kickemall · Post by **kickemall** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:47 pm

If they are dogs that have been corrected before, especially the half spoiled ones, I think they know exactly what they are getting it for. If they haven't ever been corrected, but have been on good game I would still do the same but not quite as harsh. I've done it to quite a few dogs and have never seen any negative effects, although there could have been and I just didn't realize it but generally I can tell when a dog changes. I was taught this about 25 years ago by the best dog man I have ever hunted with. Truthfully, with shock collars used the way they are today (on every dog when it gets out of the box) you can probably get by without doing anything and you'll be able to hammer it next time but I just don't believe they should ever get away with running trash and need to be corrected in some form every time. I've found its a lot easier to never let it get started if you can and if not, stop it before it gets out of hand.

Warner5 · Post by **Warner5** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:02 pm

Ureal-tk in your scenerio you mentioned you corrected a few but not all. I am willing to bet all your dogs know corrections have been made(except new to the game pups), I am also willing to bet they will all be on their best behavior for the rest of the day. John.

Unreal_tk · Post by **Unreal_tk** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:15 pm

The older ones I could see that for sure John. Younger ones im not sure, but you could be right. Definitely gave me a new perspective to look at in that reguard. This is what's great of these scenarios we might have seen or thought of, we can think of a better way to handle it when it does come up.

Warner5 · Post by **Warner5** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:43 pm

Your young dogs may not know what happened. But they do know all their running buddies just left them, screaming at the top of their lungs. Going straight for the safety of the truck. I am sure you can agree, this scenerio could have turned out way worse as far as training goes.

It was just the season before last, I had this happen to me. Poor timing on my part and over reaction or correction left my dogs confused making them hard for me to read. It seemed the poor things were alway's in trouble so they alway's acted like they were in trouble. It is very difficult hunting dogs that check when there is no reason to. But like I said before you know your dogs better than I. Good luck. John.

slowandeasy · Post by **slowandeasy** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:10 pm

unreal, warner is one hundred percent correct. truth be known there are many people that will say they never run a shock collar on their better hounds. but sometimes more often than not the temptation to go with the youngsters is intence. and there may be times that they are thinking about caving in and going, possibly even on the way. but when they hear the squeeling they want no part of the party.

ya see they read us as good or better than we read them.

take care

newby · Post by **newby** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:59 pm

kickemall wrote:I'm a little different about this scenario. Unless they are pups that haven't been on anything good, I would take them back to where they started it or crossed a road and give them a going over.

I think this could be benificial if you take them back and say, road or rig them through that area and they start it again...then, you caught 'em redhanded. Otherwise, I don't think you should discipline them besides a stern look for the older dogs, I have one now that's been around here for about 3 years and all I have to do now (most of the time) is a stern look, don't even have to speak to him, I just show him by my body language that I'm not happy and you can see his body language change...back to reading your dogs.

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