Papered Bobcat dogs

[Dads dogboy]

First off Fellows, thanks for getting the Thread back on topic...at times it seems as if this Family is a dysfunctional as most others....with jealousy and envy causing folks to act like Cinderella’s step mom! Glad it stopped before I got back on here.

Now as to “Papered” Hounds…you all have pretty much said all that there is to say. The Papers are just a RECORD or ROAD MAP of where the Hounds have come from; then this can help you plan on where to go.

Keeping accurate record with an “HONEST” evaluation of each hound and its Siblings in the closest two or three generations is the way to acquire the Genetic Consistency that Dad has Achieved.

Now you all are discussing the Lines or Strains of Hounds that “Geterdone”; well, as in so many of these threads, the Replies tend to be very Parochial in Nature, coming from good hunters but from a very small Geographic region. I wish that we could stimulate more folks to participate here….I know they are out there cause lot will PM me, also I have seen as many as 36 guests on here at one time.

Now you all in Oregon are high on the TW Lines, mentioned were the Loose Bruce, Finley River Lines, and Good ones for your area no doubt. But in Jessup, GA if they are reading this, the laughter is probably quite loud. There the topic would head up with “Bourbon” not the drinking kind….but the Listening To kind. These Hounds (Running Walker going right back to the Walker brothers Pen in the mid 1800s) is what Mr. Glen Mullis, Jr. Aspenwall, Charles Tyre, and several more have used to reach the TOP of the Bobcat Hound world. (Yea, they catch numbers comparable to the ones Mr. Dewey talked about, and they all have or had REAL jobs).

In the Mid Atlantic you had Mr. Lewis Jordan, I am told that his filing cabinet was his Shirt pockets and the dashboard of his pickup. Yet he could tell you His Hounds pedigree going back to when he was just a “Yonker” getting the Cat Hound Fever! Fortunately there are young Houndsmen trained by him to keep his Lines of Running Walkers alive and well for years to come. Thanks Vacathunter, NCfoxhunter, Poon and the rest of you for you dedication and hard work in doing this so Ole Ring can still be heard in the Pine Thickets of the Tidewater!

Down south of them in Florida, in Mid to Southern FL, there were men like Florida Cathunter and his mentors who also put up or on the tailgate more than 30 or 40 Bobcat a year…lots more, they had Jobs and families. They used Old lines of Walker and July’s as well as some Grade Hounds (some of which who may have had a little Beagle in them) but the records of these Hounds ancestors was as imbedded in their psyche as their own Family Lineage was. Again Papered does not have to mean Registered!

Now if you all would look at a Map of Texas…Find I 20 running East and West. Then find the Colorado River, it runs Northwest to Southeast. Now South and West of that line are located MORE BOBCAT hunters than are found in the whole Western US. Yet we only have one regularly on here, all be it maybe the Best of the Best (that is meant sincerely South Texan), another couple show up occasionally. Where am I headed with this…it is that any time a Race is going on, and the Hunter/Houndsmen are leaning on the truck hood listening to the Music, more often than not who is Ole Shadows Pup or Grand, Great or Great, Great Grand Pup will come up. While these Hounds for the most part will not be “Registered” there are Records going back decades for these Hounds. Did everyone keep them, no way, yet enough dedicated Houndsmen were farsighted enough to document who could do what, therfore Ole Shadow is still heard over the Brasada!

Now to New England and the Great North East; Google NEK Hounds….this stands for Northeast Kingdom Hounds and see what Mr. Pete Richardson, Jason Waterhouse and others have done and are doing. Just up the Peninsula in Maine Spruce Mountain, Second Nature and others have both Papered and Grade Hounds who make Bobcat Music, Fur on the Tailgate and lots of Folks happy. You can bet the Good Houndsmen up there can talk Chapter and verse about the lineage of those Nice Hounds.

Hounds and their Breeding are like any other undertaking….you get out of It and Them what you put in, not just their care, but in the planning for the Future by reviewing the History of the Past!

[rcrete]

Nances little topper did win a couple of those hunts his owner/handler was Bob maroosk and the hunt were held in nova scotia Canada the only way I would know this is i still have the pleasure to run with Bob and i still learn something new from him every day

[Big N' Blue]

Nances little topper did win a couple of those hunts his owner/handler was Bob maroosk and the hunt were held in nova scotia Canada the only way I would know this is i still have the pleasure to run with Bob and i still learn something new from him every day

If you get a chance ask him to give us the details of the format and how the hunt was conducted. Thanks.

[Ker_man]

I believe there was a dog of another color that aparently had a title of " world cat champion"that went up to those compitions in the 70s that ran a week and never caught or treed a cat. I was told this by a good source if I didn't get it mixed up.

[Sierra Madre]

Great thread, thanks for sharing...

[pegleg]

What happened did you boys run out of steam? I'd really like details on "the world champion cat hunt" myself.

[Budd Denny]

If I recall, Nelson Cole ran in (a) cat championship somewhere. He has caught his share of cats.

[Ker_man]

Pegleg, I guess this has nothing to do with papers but i've called up someone who had participated in the bobcat events held in ''1969,1970 and 1971 in Nova Scotia Canada''
this is how he remembers it. (he has the papers and pictures at home in a box)

The dogs had to be '' cat champions'' to compete which to them meant that they had to have treed 3 female bobcats by themselves and then 5 more cats. I believe he said that this was pretty much an honor system though there was supposed to be 1 witness.

The dogs were run in groups of 3 and had to be loose and hunting at least 1 hour a day but could hunt all day.
I think it was handled somewhat like a coon hunt competition.

Where I mentioned a dog running all week with no results it seems that the right version is the when the owner saw the dog running in the (thickets of fir and spruce I think) and not catching he with drew the dog from the hunt.

My source said that the winners were 1969, a bluetick from Nova Scotia.
1970 and 1971 were walkers from New Hampshire and Maine.
I guess they wanted to hold an event and this was how they handled it.

I bet Nelson was there and could add to this and yes he has caught lots of cats.