Jagds on bobcats?

[JOKER09]

Hey do u guys think it would be hard to go after bobcats with just jagds? If u guys had used jagd for bobcats once how was it like? is it difficult?

[Dads dogboy]

JOKER09,

Coastalrangecathunter, who tries to portray himself here on BGH as a Houndsman, is in reality a JAGDMAN.

He has a Bobcat catching and killing machine who needs NO help to GETERDONE!

The little Dynamo has caused me to have to eat crow about "one" dog catching a Cat.

Hopefully JC will not be shy as he usually is and will tell about his Beast.

[JOKER09]

Wow damn is it that good!? i was thinking on using my two boys on bobcats but from what i heard bobcats are one of the toughest game to hunt for. Its really amazing that somebody have a jagd that great

[coastrangecathunting]

gater is half jagd and half fox terrier. he is extreemly melo for a terrier. i take him every where with me . i can leave my lunch on the seat of my pickup , go cut trees for 6 hours and he wont touch it. thats more impressive than catching a bobcat. he has caught 7 solo cats. he goes with the hounds on all the races and is a very good locate tree dog. on a fast race he will get behind but wont quit . not growly like most ive seen . he was one of the hardest dogs to brake off of deer i have ever had. if he ever got on a bear he would most likely get killed . not much backup in him.

jc

[JOKER09]

My boy joker is one hard ass jagd too! but he knows when to back up and avoid taking damages, hes a smart one but my bros dont like him cause he wont take on a coon by him self, he would go in at first but later on he would bay. I dont like it ether because he is freaking big for a jagd, and if he want to he can kill a coon under 5 mins i say. But hes my boy and i dont ever want to see him dead, so thats a good thing hen he knows to take less damage.

[Dan McDonough]

I had a little female that was a little superstar on coon and squirrel. I never did hunt her on bobcat but if i had, I'm sure she would have made a decent cat dog at the least. I've always thought that the best cat dogs had a touch of squirrel dog in their thinking. She made it as high as 2nd in 2003 for squirrel dog of the year but I ran out of trials within a reasonable driving distance and she quickly fell off of the list. She did however run a lot of critters that run very similar to a bobcat. I won't go into what they were so you'll have to take my word on it. I started her on chipmonks when she was 15 weeks old, then rats, then cats and coon and then fox. She and her brother caught a fox (in the wild) when they were 5 1/2 months old. Those two didn't miss a released training critter from the first until the 24th critter and many of those were released from 15 min. to an hour before I brought them in. I still use her brother occationally, to start cats for my Leopard pups when the old trainers need a break or are recovering from an injuries. Her brother is pretty decent on cats but is not as good a locator as she was (not bad, just not as good). She is dead now but her brother is still healthy and working at 12 years old. I take it easy on him because I don't want to loose him either. They sure make great buddies after you get them through some obedience and a good amount of breaking. My male was rotten on dear but she was never to bad about trashing and had a more managable range. My male has no range, he just keeps going and would be back in about a week before I had tracking/shock collars.

[JOKER09]

My boy joker got a lot of range, but he doesnt take his time on the tracks really well. He miss up a lot sometimes when chasing tracks. How do u cat hunters do it? how should i start out my jagds on a bobcat track? Should i go for coon more often to help them get better on tracking? What kind of training should i train my jagds before i get my first cat?

[JOKER09]

Should i need hounds to help my jagds out or are they good enough by them self!

[coastrangecathunting]

not quite sure what your looking for . if u want to catch 5 a year or 30. if u want to catch 5 just run the terriers . if u want 30 u need to find a cat dog .
jmo
not a hound a catdog . there is a big difference.
jc

[Dan McDonough]

What JC said...that cat dog may just be a jagd but it's more likely to be something else. That being said, having a good jagdterrier around for any hunt is an easy way to up the level of excitement. Don't leave home without one but your might not want that to be your only one.

[JOKER09]

the thing is that my jagds had, and treed possums and house cats but have not really tryed them on coons or cats, so how would i start them off? should i just take them out and see how it goes?

[david]

Joker, there are several excellent books on training a coon dog. One that I have read was written by John Wick. try to get hold of one of those books and follow it step for step. Some Jagds make good tree dogs, and some do not. He needs to at least locate and stay at the tree, does not have to bark much. Put a bell on him if he does not bark treed much. You will hear him milling at the tree. Get there fast. That will be important for catching coon. Might not matter too much on the Minnesota cats, you will probably end up at a brush pile or beaver hole. Your jadg will not probably be able to stop the cat before he gets to one of these places, and will not probably be able to push him hard enough to make him climb. I know Jack Jones and others in places like Missouri have caught the occasional bobcat with their Jagds and Jagd mix dogs. Most terrier guys will not limit their dogs to one type of game but catch all kinds of stuff with them.

You live in Minnesota, hunt them on coon and squirrel until you get a some snow, but not too deep for your dogs legs, then head for the swamps and find a bobcat track. It is good that your Jagd is on the large side. Pack a good survival pack with a compass, flashlights, fire starters, and needle nosed pliers. get on that track and stay on it. start at first light, and walk out after the sun goes down. You trail the cat with your dog on a leash until the track is hot and let him go. When he loses the track, leash him, walk with him again, let him go when he is pulling hard, and repeat. You will have to be about as tough as your terrier, so start losing weight and running right about now and you should be ready when the snow flies. Get him deer broke before you go or you will be wasting your time and gas. If you dont want to do that part, just stay home, go to the park and run deer all day it is much cheaper to run deer close to home.

[david]

I forgot to mention a couple things you should be prepared for. One is, the needle nosed pliers are for porcupine. These animals are more dangerous to your jagd than the many wolves up there. They will be in the same brushpile the cat goes into. If you get a chance to discourage your dog against porkys, do it. It could be the thing that saves his life.

Second, know that you may not be able to get your dog out of the brush pile or beaver house. Just know that ahead of time. He wont be able to kill a male cat, and he wont come out till he does. So bring your tent and sleeping bag. You will have to wait till one of them starves to death. You wont starve because there are plenty of wolves to eat.

Dont let these things discourage you though. You need to have some of these stories to tell your grand children.

I dedicate this post to Annie, a very special Jagd who spent her last glorious moments in a brush pile with a big Minnesota bobcat. It was a horrible waste of a great little dog. As good as a man could hope to own.

"It is better to burn out than to fade away." I am not sure I beleive those words of Mr. Neil Young, but maybe Annie did.

[JOKER09]

Thanks so much hahaha, ive been hunting my jagd with squirrels and he do really well at treeing but it is so hard to broke him off of deers, his drive is so strong! But like u said i would be wasting my gas . I got my jagd from the jones u mentioned, they are really smart and fast but my jagd takes things a little bit to fats, he would rush in on a scent and go after it but would lose it because hes not following the tracks correctly. I guess i would do what u said, i just got a tough ass little jagd and with the two of them i think the would be able to kill one, but for sure their going to lose some blood

[david]

I hope you have lots of fun with your dogs, and I hope you do get to experience bobcat hunting. But I don't beleive two 15 or 20 pound jadgs are not going to kill a 35 pound minnesota bobcat in a hole with nothing but claws and fangs covering the hole.