year old plot

[Charles Turner]

With out the obvious of needing to mature some, this is the issue I am having. I have started taking him by himself on small hunts behind the house, he knows what a coon smells like and shows high levels of aggression on a caged coon in which those seesions have been very limited.
Last night I took him out, and I will wear part of the issue. I had a trap set for a few days, and I did not check it the day before, and was going to check it during the hunt, thinking due to the weather, no coon would be in the trap. I casted the young dog by himself and began to walk. He began to hunt the area we was in and located the trap with a coon inside and opened up and began fighting the cage. I made it to the dog asap and tied him back. I realeasd the coon into the dark and gave him a small head start. The coon went up the nearest tree out of my sight that I later located with my light. It was not far from where he was relaesed out from the cage. I relaesed my dog and he lit out fast and opened on the released coon. He was going going crazy around the tree the coon was in but would not get on the wood. He has seen other dogs tree and does the same thing, which is continue to work the odor with great intensity on the ground but never actually tree. In the day time of course when he can see the coon, he acts like a pro. I just need some advice, and to paint the picture plain and simple. I have my dog back tied to the tree the coon is in, he is going crazy smelling the ground, opening and the whole nine yards, I put his nose on the bark, not forcing but letting him hopefully realize there is odor also on the wood. I draggged him away from the tree, no scolding, just frustrated. I see the ability in this dog or he would have already been culled. Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks and sorry for the novel, but wanted this to be accurate.

[treetalkingjp]

I coon hunt plotts . Bill hicks bred and they do good tracking!!! but sometimes alittle light on the tree if I was you , if you have a chance hunt him with a older dog alot ! And don't show him to many cages coons . The best thing I have done , now im sure they are alot smarter people on here than me that's been doing this 50+ years but I'd take him with a older dog and have some fur shot to him . Alot of times U can buy a cheap pup trainer older dog that is about 7+ years old . If he can track and or follow a dog and track with him that older dog will reach him . He would soon learn to tree cause he knows there's a coon that's going to be shot to him. If he is leavin the tree , like u said tie him to it and make sure he is thelast dog to leave the tree.

Like I said my idea would be a older dog to teach him . The more fur and game shot out to him the better . The best lessons are not taught but lived just my 2 cents hope it helps .

:Justin

[Charles Turner]

What you are stating is what I have been doing, he's had three or four coons shot out to him for free IMO that my Walker has treed. When the Walker is treed, and I mean this Walker is a treeing manic. My plot just works the ground, hunting hard! He has been the first to have a turn with dropped out coon with little damage to the coon and enjoys every second of it. I do a drag with a coon and put it up in the tree at dark. He nails it! My only problem here has been getting the coon high enough in the tree so that he can't jump and get it. I'm working on this seperate issue that I feel is not that big of a issue at this time. I asked a veteran coon hunter today the same thing, he said the track could have been so hot, that the young dog could have been confused due to the amount of scent in the area in which the coon ran up the tree. In your opinion, would a night drag with a caged coon tied up high be ok to try at this point. I will keep hunting him with the Walker as well. Thanks again and I value your input. I get also what you mean when you are talking caged coons.

[treetalkingjp]

. Well ll tell you how I got my pups to tree . We're we live we have Christmas trees every where I mean 400 acres of them . We takes coons out there and the pups would chase them up a tree and then let em tree and them shake the coon out and hold the pups and let them tree again and again over and over . You could use a sapling pine but from your info about your plott he would jump up or knock it since he will kill a coon just another thought .

[Charles Turner]

Thats for sure a good idea, yes he has high levels of aggression when it comes to a coon. I guess I should have noted this before and learning as I go, this is not a bad thing. Even when I show him a tied up high caged coon(two times) in the day time, he will attempt to jump and get it, this is bothersome to me due to the fact that he could injure himself and has done some back flips and not not stuck the dismount:). When he finale decides he can't get it, he sits down on his rear and hammers very well foaming at the mouth and all the other good stuff. Maybe this is how he will always tree? As soon as I get the chance I go to him and praise him for opening well and he responds well and opens harder for me, at this same time I am controlling the leash and attempting to detur him from jumping up. I think he will really make a fine hound in the end. He saw his first coon at 10 months old and that was a couple months ago. He is very intelligent and has good drives for any toy, to the extent there is no doubt in my mind I could make this dog a narcotics detector dog. I have have failed several dogs bred for this work and he could do it! I taught him to load in about 5 minutes.

[Charles Turner]

I wanted to update everyone, last friday my pup was up on the wood treeing with the older male. The coon had given them the slip over a good cattle fence, but I liked what I saw in my pup. I am for the first time comp hunting my Walker this weekend. Guess you have to pay to go to school.

[treetalkingjp]

Great news man

[perky]

id work with him more cage coon in the dark at night. get him bayin at it good on the ground then pull it up 20 feet er so on a pully. keep the cage movin. pull it up and down near the ground fer 10-20 seconds then pull it up high in the tree fer a min then repeat. and have him on a leash the ENTIRE time you might need someone to hold dog or someone handle the coon or tie him to the tree or a sapling right there. mingling round and sniffin around in the bushes can't be acceptable and he needs too realize that. if you work him on cage coon do it at night. id do this until your dog will not leave that tree no matter what and is screamin. don't tie him back from the tree cuz wouldn't that just defeat the purpose too get him stayin on the tree? hunting with a pup trainer works great but i think your dog is just needs a couple months of more oppurtunities. from how yer describing your dog its a powerhouse track dog but weak treedog. well usually those become better balance coondogs then a powerhouse treedog and weak trackdog. the hound has too put it in a tree before it can tree.