mark wrote:The original post by merlo seemed fishy to me, like someone was using a different user name and trying to see if they could shake things up a little. So everything i have posted has been tongue in cheek except that i believe that there has to be bred in traits in dogs to be good catdogs, doesnt matter what color or breed. If you looked in My kennel you would see color doesnt matter to me. So i am apologizing to merlo if this is not a bogus thread and if it/you are for real come to the gathering and i will apologize to you in person also. I was just having some fun with it. Once again sorry if its real but hangn with shady tricksters has made me cautious lol. Peace out
Must admit, in the beginning I thought maybe. the post was just to get a reaction from others. However was not kidding about my interest in one of those pups. Fact is I called Nora and talked with her about what I suspect is the small female Merlo owns. And I did recall reading about dogs in the Dame/s lineage. I have been looking for dogs that natural My whole life, CONGRATULATIONS again Merlo. Sure you are a very good trainer, but the best trainer in the world can only expose hounds to desired game and give them proper
guidance. I can assure somewhere in each of those five dogs lineage lies some good breeding. Reading these posts is more interesting to me than watching Dancing with the Stars. Al
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Yeah its a real post no BS. I just think some people are to into looking for the perfect dog rather then taking a decent hound that can most likely get the job done and and working and training it correctly. If tossing pups out with your go to dogs works for you then great Kudo's to you guys. I felt I could teach it more and work on there faults by doing it myself.
Al baldwin-
I picked up two dogs from the airport for Nora and drove them down to southern Wa. Thats how I ended up with a pup I believe it was her pick of the litter. I had the choice between her and a male both were pups Nora was keeping.
Merlo, like was said earlier sounds like you did your homework congrates keep up the good work. If I ever get that Carrie in a tree I will let you know lol. Andy
Shes up!!!!!!!! Andy,Merlo get down here quick! She's getn pretty squirrelly and i dont know how much longer i can hold her down by myself. Oh ya, there is some guy with a hockey stick trying to smack me around with it.
Well I have been hunting with Rock for a couple of years now and he can and will catch his own game from truck to tree. I had alot to say while reading this post but wouldn't you know it you guys already said it. As far as speed goes a dog can only run as fast as their NOSE carrys them. If you are not allowing dogs to catch their own game by themselves at least sometimes you probably have a pack of ME TO DOGS and a couple of good well trained dogs.
Merlo said "locates like a pro" and I believe that is the foundation of Bobcat hunting with dogs.Maybe Merlo is Lucky I don't know. I do know it took me a while to get decent Bobcat dogs but as my handeling skills went up so did my catch ratio. I would like to say congrats to Merlo for training his dog instead of the "Monkey see Monkey do method".
It does no good to have a tree dog if you can't put one in a tree. Each to their own. You can catch bobcats with any type of dog. That does not make it a bobcat dog in my book and YES there are top bobcat dogs in any breed. I feel most people miss the point of hunting 8 to 15 dogs on a bobcat. One can't understand something if you don't understand it. There is something to learn from all if you can hear or understand it. As far as me to dogs would that be the lead one? Dewey
dwalton wrote: I feel most people miss the point of hunting 8 to 15 dogs on a bobcat.
I don't think people miss the point,I just think that some people like to do it differently.Some people measure success by using whatever means necessary to put as many cats up as possible.Other people measure success by making individual dogs the best that they can be.There is no wrong or right way.The right way is whatever way makes me happy and brings me the most enjoyment.I'm mostly a bear hunter and the most effective way to catch as many bears as possible is to hunt multiple dogs,but the dogs that really impress me are the ones who excel at getting the job done even when their alone.
What is the difference in one breed catching a cat then another breed catching the cat. The end result is a caught cat... If two people hunted the same amount of days and the same amount of time in the same area and caught the same amount of cat, Whats the difference if a tree dog did it or a running dog did it? Im not saying my dogs can catch as many cats as anyone on here just stating that a cat in a tree is a cat in a tree doesnt matter what breed is tree'ing it,,, So how is one breed more of a cat dog then the other if there catching the same amount. A cat dog is a dog who puts cats in a tree on a regular...
Trueblue [ Other people measure success by making individual dogs the best they can be.] That statement says a lot about you. {all good] You are right it does not matter what I think or do with dogs. Each to Their own. Dogs are a individual thing what works for you my not for me but it does not matter. Some people get fuzzed up about what I say about hunting. It does not matter it does not matter what I do or how I do it. I am not right or wrong as you are not right or wrong. Most of what I put on here is to offer people something to think about. Take what works ignore the rest. Merlo There is no difference except the amount of cats one trees in the same amount of time. I hide hunt, I want to catch a cat quick and go catch another one. Do I enjoy the dogs more or less? I enjoy the dogs much more when I am training them not worried about catching a cat or several a day. It sounds like you are doing well with your dogs. There is a lot to be learned from old cats hunters hunt with as many as you can and leave your dogs home when you do. I don't run with other hounds for many reasons. One of them is it gets in the way for me to see how other dogs work. Again EACH TO THEIR OWN. Dewey
I think what dewey is getting at Merlo is the simple fact of catching a cat is not what he is after. He wants to do it in style. Think of it like a cross country face on a dirt bike. He wants the kind of rider that doesn't take any corners too wide or lack throttle on a jump or straight away. Each thing listed costs a rider time in his over all lap time. Which in turn effects his event placement.
Your mind set is more like a fund raiser marathon, placement doesn't matter. Just as long as you finish the race its just for fun.
Both ways have good and bad things about them. Just two completely different ways of hunting. This is a good post though, enjoy reading the different ideas and views of styles of hunting. I will be honest I just made the transition this year of simply hunting to tree one cat each outing. That was more then enough to make me happy and I would actually go home after one cat. And also on deweys side of things it is defiantly an eye opener to push your dogs to achieve new things.
