cold or warmer to hot nosed dogs

[azhoundhunter88]

i was just curious wat everyone thought about when deciding what dogs to put on bears? I think you need both in ur pack but im wondering if i can get by with running all my warmer hot nosed dogs in the fall rather than my colder ones? i find that with my colder dogs it takes longer to get the bear jumped rather than the others.

[cougar2]

Throw em all in!

[azhoundhunter88]

my colder dogs take longer to jump a bear though cause they find the first cold track and follow it till jumped. my warmer ones we have to road longer but tree it way faster. just sometimes we dont find those warmer tracks. i was just curious if i could get by with the warmer ones its all fun either way.

[black and tans boy]

Dont take this the wrong way.. But been at this a lil while and you should know by how your dog strikes. I mean by how he or she positions theirselves and how excited they are. If its a hot track then they mite go bonkers just a matter of knowin your dogs. Again not tryin to be a jerk. Takes a bit but pretty soon you'll see what I'm talkin about.

[azhoundhunter88]

i hear ya

[azhoundhunter88]

Sometimes my older dogs strike super hard and it can end up being a colder track and sometimes not

[DogLakeBlues]

For me there is nothing better than cold trailing a Bear/Cat down through the canyons and listening to the race. You get to hear them picking up a lose and keep going. It can at times become a stressful day but in the end when I am walking to a tree I get a great sense of acomplishment and am very proud of my companions.

[bowtech36]

[Redwood Coonhounds]

Both have there place in a pack and I understand what you mean completely. I used to prefer a little warmer nosed dogs, because trailing around all day just wasn't my thing. But as game gets scarcer, its something thats become more of a necessity, and I also got some dogs with cold noses that run an old tough track right. Some days you still don't feel like trailing all day, so it's nice to just throw a few out and get something up quick. Some days a quick one isn't to be had, and you need to get the workhorse out.

I have some cold nosed dogs that will rig a cold fox or coon like they are looking at a bear, so telling a cold or hot bear strike on them is hard at times, they CAN fool you. If you road hunt, that can be even tougher sometimes if your not watching every dog all the time.

That said if you aren't looking to fool around all day, road the warmer nosed dogs, and when they take off, dump the cold trailers out behind them. It's a little backwards from what most people do, but who cares.

With mine, I mostly road and walk hunt for coon and fox, and rig for bear (when we had a season) and when I notice my little less cold nosed dogs run past something, I'll just holler at the others to move on I don't wanna be here all night

[bowtech36]

Yeah, I always walk hunt for coon and fox, and a warmer nosed dog is definitely a benefit there sometimes. I've walked a long ways following fox

[kordog]

not having a coldtrailer for bear would mean alot of days in a short season without runs here in maine for my style of hunting .i like cold trailers that can move a track with decent speed.for me there is nothing like having dogs that can get em out of bed .in maine that is one of the hardest parts.

[blackpaws]

around here during kill season for the bigger bears you better have some cold trailers in your box. they typically move earlier in the evening and then the dew sets on top. most times at a bait the bigger bear is in first then smaller ones on top of the bigger tracks. someitme you get lucky and it is just the big one at the bait on you find one on a sand road. during training season when there isn't as much food they frequent the baits a little more often so there is usually something fresh to run. the hardest part i have found around us in getting a dog to cold trail across water or through swamps. not that they cant swim it is just that the bear will not come out of the water dirctly across where he entered so the dogs make losses. good one can figure it out. also during the kill season the bigger bears will become road warriors down main roads or 2 rut trails and you have to have a dog that will settle down and cold trail down the road or trails.

[azhoundhunter88]

redwood, i usually let my younger dogs go first then warmer dogs and then i let the big guns out my cold trailers. i hear its backwards but it puts game up when they are all out there. i guess it depends on certain days. early season cold trailin aint bad. late season and you want a bear rig the warmer ones up. anyhow it seems to all work for me i was just curious if people that bear hunt prefer there warmer dogs.