Old Cat DOG
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Old Cat DOG
Here's one that might help not only the Young but others also.
The average hound in my opinion. Is that 4-8 yrs. old is their prime or best years. Some breeds may vary. They may still catch but are starting to fall a little behind. I have nothing for sale but, when I did. I most all ways sold at 7yrs. to get a good price and the dog was useful to the buyer. It seems that the old dog will still last and catch longer without getting Half-Timers when it "isn't" getting outrun.
Young or Someone looking for an old dog to help with getting a young dog started should keep this in mind.
There is nothing more sad and frustrating than a old cat dog losing their mind!!
The average hound in my opinion. Is that 4-8 yrs. old is their prime or best years. Some breeds may vary. They may still catch but are starting to fall a little behind. I have nothing for sale but, when I did. I most all ways sold at 7yrs. to get a good price and the dog was useful to the buyer. It seems that the old dog will still last and catch longer without getting Half-Timers when it "isn't" getting outrun.
Young or Someone looking for an old dog to help with getting a young dog started should keep this in mind.
There is nothing more sad and frustrating than a old cat dog losing their mind!!
If your coming, come on!!! "A Thousand mile journey, Starts with a single step".
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That is why those grade dogs never get over 7 years old.Varminator wrote:Here's one that might help not only the Young but others also.
I most all ways sold at 7yrs. to get a good price...
You must have read my book
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Them 7 year old grade bobcat dogs are an extra special value, because at the rate they been aging, you got at least three years before they turn 8.

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That is not a statement about you Brad, or the way you deal, I am sure you are fair. You and me both are very aware of The One we will answer to. It is however a very true statement about the hound world, as long as we are trying to help young hunters, they should know how it often is out there.
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David, I sold dogs younger for a good price, but that was for money needed for something and I always seemed to regret it later.
But I always tried to sell older dogs before they out live their usefulness. I held on to a couple out of "Love" for the dog, and had to put up with things that doesn't make it fun to me.
So if I was trying to find and old dog to help start a pup, I know that the dog that I can afford may only have 1 or 2 yrs. and with the seasons that isn't a lot of time..
Old Dogs can help or hurt you..JMO
But I always tried to sell older dogs before they out live their usefulness. I held on to a couple out of "Love" for the dog, and had to put up with things that doesn't make it fun to me.
So if I was trying to find and old dog to help start a pup, I know that the dog that I can afford may only have 1 or 2 yrs. and with the seasons that isn't a lot of time..
Old Dogs can help or hurt you..JMO
If your coming, come on!!! "A Thousand mile journey, Starts with a single step".
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I am the same way Brad. There is only two dogs I kept till they died. And honestly, I just cant stand to go through that. ("I never want to do that again" to quote a line from a book). So why not let someone else get some joy and use out of a well trained dog that you don't really need any more anyway, and save yourself some heartache at the same time.
Either way it is hard to let the dog go. But to me it is much easier to let her go to some good people where I know she will bring a lot of joy and satisfaction, than to let her go to her grave.
For these and other reasons, and contrary to a popular cliche, exceptional hounds do come up for sale at times.
buyer beware though. Do your due diligence before you lay your money down.
Either way it is hard to let the dog go. But to me it is much easier to let her go to some good people where I know she will bring a lot of joy and satisfaction, than to let her go to her grave.
For these and other reasons, and contrary to a popular cliche, exceptional hounds do come up for sale at times.
buyer beware though. Do your due diligence before you lay your money down.
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x2 David! I don't know for sure what, but it may be jealousy of some kind. But have seen old dogs start babbling, start running backwards if the others are a head, Strike Off game..and more.
That's not going to help a kid if he has a Hot Shot young dog.. David if you Quote me, Please finish the sentence so it can be taken as it was meant to,Thanks!
I have (1) 5 yr. old Bear dog (not a cat dog at all!!) and (1) pup, J.C. has (14) and was called last week from a guy wanting a dog, and he had nothing for sale. J.C. gave away several dogs in the last couple years and at least 3 were 8 or older.
It's not a bad thing to try and recover some of the money spent training dogs is it ?
That's not going to help a kid if he has a Hot Shot young dog.. David if you Quote me, Please finish the sentence so it can be taken as it was meant to,Thanks!
I have (1) 5 yr. old Bear dog (not a cat dog at all!!) and (1) pup, J.C. has (14) and was called last week from a guy wanting a dog, and he had nothing for sale. J.C. gave away several dogs in the last couple years and at least 3 were 8 or older.
It's not a bad thing to try and recover some of the money spent training dogs is it ?
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If your coming, come on!!! "A Thousand mile journey, Starts with a single step".
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david is spot on about some people misrepresenting the age of a old dog for sure. I remember a dog that me and brad helped Lloyd basey sell to a guy in Idaho years ago. dogs name was buge. the new owner hunted buge for quite a few years then he got in trouble and sold out. anyway another friend helped this guy sell the dog and by now buge had to be around 12 yrs old. the second owner and the other friend went hunting a couple years later and ole buge was still running in front of the pack. Jason told the second owner while listening to the race," man ole buge can sure run for a thirteen year old" the new owner just about fell over and said what you talking bout ? he is just turning 8 yrs old according to the guy I bought him from.!!! this kind of thing does happen but I will say that if I know anything about brad or jc, and I know plenty, either one of these guys would rather cut their own throat than to lie about a dog. but they are an exception to the rule when it comes to dog business imo
no mater if you think you can or you think you cant,, you are probably rite.
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The seven year cut off for aging has been a running joke for me for 25 years. I took Brads post as a set up for the joke because I had been awake for way too long and figured he knew the joke as well as I did. In my sleep drunk state I saw it as an obvious set up for the joke. should never write in that condition because judgement is impaired. Wish I could pull it back. Would like to warn young dog men of this on-going problem and falacy in the sale of grade dogs, but should have done it in a seperate thread. Old dogs example is only one of hundreds. My apologies to Brad and everyone else for trying to be goofy when Brad intended it as a serious topic and advice.
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P.S. If you ever see me post something again with the little guy slamming cold coffee from a thermos filled 30 hours ago...please do your best to ignore whatever I said. I have no business posting if I feel goofy enough to use this guy: 
Again, very sorry
Again, very sorry
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David, You make more sense Sleep talking then I do when awake!! I thought it might bring out some story's and memories about Old Dogs. Along with letting young ones know that, if by chance they are given or buy a Old Dog to start their pup with. They must hunt hard because time fly's by so fast ,it's next year all ready. At this stage work and wives come 2nd , and 3rd,!! What order you put them in is up to you!!
I try and say it so one "might" understand my uneducated ass!!
I try and say it so one "might" understand my uneducated ass!!
If your coming, come on!!! "A Thousand mile journey, Starts with a single step".
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varminator, I think you are talking about a old cat dog and cat being the key word? a good cat dog has to be extra competative in my opinion and when they reach the age when the younger dogs are out running them and making them look bad, that's when they realize that they are a has been and it does something to their mind and makes them goffey and gives them a feeling of overall uselessness kind of like mark. but in the end we cant really blame them and should remember all the good they did in the past. jmo
no mater if you think you can or you think you cant,, you are probably rite.
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I aint as good as i once was but im as good once as i ever was! 
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mark wrote:I aint as good as i once was but im as good once as i ever was!
I call BS. Lmao
