Grzyadms4x4 wrote:In all seriousness though it is of war greater concern what happens in our city councils, county and state governments. Getting involved there, we can have the most impact on our immediate lives.
You are correct about that!
Grzyadms4x4 wrote: As for the nation, my opinion is that it is far more important to get our house and senate in order.
As for our nation, the house and senate is very important. Sadly we have a President acting as a dictator the majority of the time and bypassing congress with executive orders. I believe our house and senate with the exception of a few go along with the administrative agenda and are all taking their plays from the same coaches. They are all being funded by the mega rich billionaires and mega monopoly businesses and pushing their agendas.
I honestly didn't read the majority of this thread completely but did give it a glance over. As far as the comments of presidents being a little fruity and like to cross their legs when they sit, I agree. Just look into Bohemian Grove. Most our presidents and the majority of highly elected politicians are members and attendees. No normal man would attend that crap without being about half queer. Bohemian Grove attendees will make Burning Man attendees look like a bunch of 1%er bikers! The guys are freaks!!!
I will leave a link for you to make you own decision. There are many if you care to research it.
Boarhunter1, Hating an entire nation of people because they are ruled over by elite mega rich don't make much sense to me. If that's the case you must hate the majority of Americans as well. Most Jews and Americans are sheep and have no idea of their history and are too dumbed down and lazy to care. Most just follow the yellow brick road to OZ and never question who's behind the curtain.
http://911truthseeker.webs.com/bohemiangrove.htmBOHEMIAN GROVE
Many powerful U.S. and global political leaders are members of
elitist Luciferian secret societies, one of which is called the Bohemian Grove Club.
Since 1873, the most powerful/elite politicians lie and tell the public they are of the Christian faith while secretly meeting in the redwood forest of Northern California every summer to engage in dark rituals. Members of the so-called Bohemian Club include Rockefeller, Kissinger, Cheney, former presidents George W. Bush, Bush Sr., Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan, Clinton, etc.
Each year at Bohemian Grove, members of this all-male "club" don red, black and silver robes and conduct an occult ritual wherein they perform mock human sacrifices in front of a forty-foot stone owl.
Now, for the first time in history, an outsider (Alex Jones) has infiltrated Bohemian Grove with a hidden camera and caught the ritual on video. The ritual is called the Cremation of Care. It is ancient Babylonian Lucifer worship fused with druidism.
The audience of this annual ceremony include the most powerful and influential elite from all across the globe; politicians, oil & media company owners, Hollywood personalities, world leaders, and so on.
Note: The ritual you are about to watch in the following video clip(s) is not the ancient Moloch worship that the Bible speaks against, as some have wrongly assumed. In the ancient world, Moloch was always represented as a bull, not an owl.
In the Cremation of Care ritual, first the officiating druid refers to the spirit they worship as a she, and then, further along into the ritual, refers to the spirit as a he, calling him the "prince of all mortal wisdom."
Occult Luciferians worship their trinity as both male and female. It is comprised of Lucifer, Lilith and Cain. Lilith is represented as an owl and worshipped as the dark feminine principle of the trinity. She has several other names dating back to ancient Babylon; the most common are Isis, Hecate, Ishtar, Ashtoreth, Semiramis, or the "goddess of witches."
That is why, if you read the occult writings of Luciferian authors—such as Helena Blavatsky or Albert Pike—you will notice that oftentimes they refer to Lucifer as a "he," yet at other times refer to Lucifer as a "she."
*Watch the ritual on video here:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/grove56k.ram *Backup link [fast-forward to 5:40]:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtSVBTne-KY *Enhanced footage with subtitles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7GngzZtpu0Caught Off Guard
[1] David Gergen—the top senior advisor of four administrations; Ford, Nixon, Reagan and Clinton—becomes visibly irritated when Alex Jones asks about Gergen's membership with the Luciferian club. Gergen also gets upset when he finds out that Alex Jones snuck in and caught their nefarious, secret ritual on tape. When asked if he has ever participated in the ritual, Gergen angrily snaps: "That's none of your damn business." [*]
*Watch the interview here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85LdINmZyT0 [2] Tom Ridge, the former Director of Homeland Security, admits that he was once invited to the Bohemian Grove when he was still in politics. However, he claims that he turned the offer down because—quote—"it would look bad and it wasn't right."
*Watch the interview here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3_81O8yewc [3] Bill Clinton mocks a man who asks him about the Bohemian Grove; after which, two agents force the man to leave as Clinton continues to mock him.
*Watch the video clip here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8y-FPQlNfI [4] Newt Gingrich is confronted about the Bohemian Grove:
*Watch the interview here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpiLARg87FU [5] A 1981 ABC news report about the Bohemian Grove:
*Watch the video clip here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO_8dzG6aOw [6] A 1982 NBC news report about the Bohemian Grove:
*Watch the video clip here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQhrgt_dOd0HOMOSEXUALITY
Several guests and former employees of the Bohemian Grove have admitted that young boys and homosexual prostitutes are brought in to sexually serve members of the all-male Luciferian club.
In the following audio clip, former President Nixon expresses his disgust with the homosexual activity at the grove among elite politicians and media members, from the U.S. and around the world, who go there annually to visit.
*Listen to audio of Nixon's comments here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPb-PN9F2Pc *Read the transcript of Nixon's comments here:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/032604nixontape.html *Read this 1989 Washington Times news article that exposed a homosexual prostitution ring catering to White House officials:
http://www.voxfux.com/features/bush_chi ... nTimes.htm MURDER & PEDOPHILIA
From the age of six, Paul Bonacci was involved with Project Monarch. He admits to engaging in sex with several politicians when he was invited to attend their "parties" as a young boy. He testifies to witnessing other young boys engage in sex with grown men at the grove, too.
In several police interrogation videos that can be found on YouTube, Paul also admits to being coerced into having sex with some of the other boys as the men "smiled and watched."
Years later, as a teenager, Paul claims that he was involved in a snuff film at Bohemian Grove. He and another boy named Nicholas were forced to have sex with a 12-year-old boy the men had kidnapped. According to Paul's confession, Larry E. King, and several other men, filmed him and Nicholas take turns raping the child hostage. (Note: Larry E. King is the same man who was involved in the Franklin Cover-Up child prostitution scandal connected to the White House.) Paul claims that one of the men jumped in, brutally raped the boy, shot him in the head, and then dumped his body in a wooded area when the men were finished filming.
Paul tells the interrogators that at first he was too scared to confess to anyone what had happened. But when he finally mustered up enough courage to confess to a police officer, he was not believed. Detective Hogan brushed Paul off and said: "Those type of things just don't happen."
Consider that Cathy O'Brien has given a similar account regarding pedophilia at Bohemian Grove. She has recorded several video testimonies that verify Paul's claims, many of which can be viewed on YouTube.
In her 1995 book, Trance: Formation of America, Cathy writes about how she was taken to Bohemian Grove when she was involved with MK-Ultra. She narrates a firsthand account of "live sex rooms" at the grove, where club members are free to engage in any kind of sexual perversion imaginable; necrophilia, pedophilia, homosexuality, bestiality, etc.
(Note: If you think that bestiality is beneath the morality of the government, then ask yourself why, in 2011, the U.S. Senate approved a defense authorization bill that includes a provision which not only repeals the military law on sodomy, it also repeals the military ban on sex with animals. Yes, you read that correctly. Bestiality is now legally condoned in the U.S. military. Click here for details.)
Cathy's written exposé calls out many politicians by name, and offers very graphic and specific information that was initially scoffed at, but then confirmed to be true years later. For example, her book exposed the Cremation of Care ritual and the forty-foot stone owl five years before Alex Jones infiltrated the club and filmed it on hidden video.
Others have made similar allegations. Peter Chernoff and David Shurter both claim to have witnessed pedophilia and Satanic ritual sacrifice at the grove in the 1980s. Click here & here to watch Peter confess to being involved in the ritual murder of 10-year-old Kevin Collins at the Bohemian Grove.
Former State Senator John W. DeCamp has written a book entitled Child Abuse, Satanism, & Murder in Nebraska. In it, he too claims that pedophilia and Satanic ritual sacrifices are being carried out by the political elite at places like Bohemian Grove.
There are two police interviews of Paul Bonacci linked below. The first one was conducted by the head of the Los Angeles FBI, Special Agent Ted Gunderson. The second one was conducted by Nebraskan legislative committee investigator, Detective Gary Caradori.
(Note: Caradori was killed in a suspicious accident shortly after interviewing Paul. He is one of several people who mysteriously died during the Franklin scandal while trying to expose pedophilia among government officials.)
*Watch the following documentary, "Conspiracy of Silence." It exposes the Franklin Cover-Up and the pedophile ring that Larry E. King operated to serve the political, judicial, corporate and media elite:
http://franklinscandal.com/cos/ *Read this 1989 New York Times news article that exposed Larry E. King using foster children to cater to pedophiles in the government:
http://www.voxfux.com/features/bush_chi ... anklin.htm *Read Nick Bryant's article entitled Sexual Abuse's Second Shame published January 2012 in USA Today magazine (pgs 46-47). His article relates the recent Sandusky case to the Franklin Cover-Up:
http://franklinscandal.com/ *Read the two following articles published by UPI and the New York Times regarding the investigation of over 5,000 Pentagon employees "suspected" of downloading child pornography:
[UPI Article-1]
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/01/ ... 294241751/ [NYT Article-2]
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/25/us/25porn.html?_r=0 [watch]
*Paul Bonacci interview 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J444MIqPeF4 *Paul Bonacci interview 2:
Part-1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_D5Swxx8ZMPart-2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r71vbrSNC_APart-3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHcHkXdKNFUPart-4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oplqSX4xxrUPart-5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObzWF7ECaag MISOGYNY
The following video is a Bohemian Grove documentary called Order of Death, produced by Alex Jones. At the film's 10:24:00 timestamp, a grove employee is seen wearing an undercover camera during one of Bohemian Grove's festivals called Gypsy Jazz. The host makes a remark about what a wonderful jazz player the composer was, despite the fact he hung around with women; after which, the all-male crowd begins to boo.
*Watch "Order of Death" here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKjHsH4Dg1k *Watch "Dark Secrets Inside Bohemian Grove" here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVtEvplXMLsRalph Nader Discusses the Bohemian Grove Club
Ralph Nader is interviewed on KSRO, by Pat Thurston, where he talks about the annual retreat of the infamously secretive all-male Bohemian Grove Club located 75 miles north of San Francisco in a privately owned 2700-acre redwood forest. In the interview, Nader exposes some of the corruption and illegal activities these rich and powerful men are up to in the woods each summer, and why we should care.
[Part-1]:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZMlIo0rQK0 [Part-2]:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAiokLusI8
I bet that by the time 2012 comes that he might have more support than Hillary from the Dems. Hillary has way to much baggage to ever be elected pres and she's to much of a war pig for the dems or indis. Shes no threat unless the GOP nominates Santorum or some similar.
Gone Huntin'