Fairfield Idaho houndsmen

[justahunter]

I want to know why 80% or more of the houndsmen that hunt in Fairfield are complete f ing a holes ? This is something that has bothered me since I started hunting hounds. Most of the guys that hunt there hate each other and are back stabbers. They all act like they own the mountains in that area. God forbid you turn out on a strike or put a bait out because they will accuse you of running there bear it was on there bait. If you stop to bs with them they start throwing accusations at you or wont even talk. I have hunted everywhere in Idaho and many other states and I run into a couple guys like that here and there but never so many in one small area. Don't get me wrong there are a handful of good houndsmen in there that I have met. How many of you guys have had this experience up there ? They are all jelous and don't believe a word any other houndsmen says. They are doing nothing but hurting what we have. Hurting themselves.

[cobalt]

Can't be worse than Pine Ck. lol

[justahunter]

lol. It is worse but pine creek pretty bad but I usually just smile and wave at those guys as I am driving around them to go to a tree .lol

[Dozer]

This could get to be an interesting post. I know some guys up that way. I'm sure they would not have a problem talking to you about anything. But when you call guys the names you just did be ready for a fight. Remember every time you point a finger there is four more pointing back at you. And if you have better dogs and just drive around them going to trees why do you care? If you think they are complete f ing a holes why dont you ask a few them? Or is it easier to put it on a public forum. Funny how everyone is tough in a bar but not many are tough when its one on one up on a mountain.

[justahunter]

heres my number feel free to call 208 590 5651. i dont mind talking to any of those chicken shit mother (beep).

[250plot]

i know justahunter personally and understand what hes talking about. this last spring season i had someone cut my dogs off and dump into my race and try to talk down to me and act like it was his race from the get go. straight bullshit. i dont understand it. its only hurting the sport. on this website i always see people saying we need to come together if we dont we wont be here much more. not everyone is like this i meet quite a few good guys while hunting and had some good conversations.

[dhostetler]

I believe a lot of these issues are a lack of communication. Several years ago I was hunting in Idaho in an area I hunted several years before. The first day I got there in the afternoon and ran up the main road hoping to get a quick strike. I ran into an outfitter that had a camp set up back there. We had a long friendly conversation about hound hunting which he also did but at that time he had only a couple bait sitters. I asked him where his baits were so I would stay away. He wouldn't tell me. The next morning I struck a bear and it was obvious that my race went through both of his bait sites. I intercepted the dogs on a road and caught them and met the outfitter on my way out and he looked very unhappy. The next day the game warden searched me out and asked for my hound hunting permit. The next several days I hunted elsewhere away from his bait sites. All he would've had to do was tell me where his baits were and there would not have been any problems.

[BBL]

When there is one road in and there is two to three baits on two mile road and you run in to the hound guy that has his bear bait in there then dont go rig his baits. Bait is hard to come by and pack to these baiting sites and to have someone rush in to the area in the morning and rig the bait and leave no where to go is BS. Also if you were showed this area by a mutual friend and then go back thinking your hunting it for your self is also BS. Small area go find an area that has more room with little to no one in there hunting.

[250plot]

so you are telling me that i should know that you have baits out on a road? what if i did too? what if i had baits out before you? this is exactly what the topic of this post is about people acting like they own a mountain because they have bait out on it. and most of those guy wont stop and talk to you and say a word to you. so how are you suppose to know? i guess i am not aloud to hunt a certain spot and have to move completely to a new spot because someone has a bait out. bs. dhostetler i think that is exactly right. i dont know how many times i been hunting and drove by a another hunter and get glared at and looked at like i should not be out there. if you intercepted your dogs that guy should be thanking you and not calling a game warden on you that is bs. i have no problem staying away from other bear baits if i know where there at its respect for the other people for there hard work.

[justahunter]

That's exactly what I'm saying. You do not own the drainage. If they weren't such dicks and just said "hey, have a bait in there, would you not mind turning loose til you get to a certain point or tell me when they are not in there?" and how do they know I do not have a bait in there too? Sorry but if my dogs strike, I turn loose unless I hear other dogs or see that they have already been there. Besides, more than one bear hits a bait everyday, so am I not allowed to turn loose in that whole area if they are baiting it? F that and F everything and every reason they have behind it! If they wanna fist fight one on one bring it on. I would enjoy it with some of them guys. The funny thing is they know who they are. I can be a dick too and that's what they force me to do when I hunt there. In fact, I only hunt there just to kill a bear all because of the way they are. They come to the area I hunt and act the same damn way they do in their area so they could go to hell as far as iam concerned most of those guys and not a member of a hound club. if houndsman start finding my baits and running off them i dont blame them i blame my self and the first thing i do is move it.i get sick of running the same bears all the time.

[heybearwalker]

I hope I'm not included in that %80. I don't believe I've ever ran into you on that side of the mountain though. Most of the guys who hunt up there are dicks because they have to drive from twin or boise. Long way to drive only to realize everyone else hunts there too. I have to laugh at guys that get mad when someone else strikes off thier baits. If you don't want dogs striking off your bait, get off your ass and pack it in a little further. Or better yet get out of bed a little earlier and get there before the guy you're so jealous of does. It's important to remember that none of us owns the mountain, the bears, or the kitties up here.

[bchoundman]

im new school had some really good teachers so I got rolling real fast in the hound game. But im here to tell you hound guys are clicky assholes. I try hard not to be that way but were im from everybody kinda has there cougar spots and they act like your trespassing if your in there areas. I know everybody and I wont take any shit ill bonk your (beep) head. so I try to acomadate every body. my one buddy has helped me a bit with getting me a couple dogs, but hes a guide so I try not to shoot cats in his territory, ill still chase everything that I come across. then my other buddy I respect so much for everythging hes tought me I don't go to his area without phoning him. I found the guys who a real dicks have shitty dogs or shitty skills so there are pissy cause you are running game while they are fighting dogs or themselves. having said all that I hunt cats with my dad lots he really enjoys it but hes old school and doesn't like to see other houndsman. so when we see one I make a joke " holy shit houndsman we better stop and fight them" then I stop and visit them for a sec and he gets all awkward and gives me shit everytime, " why do you stop and talk to those idiots" he allways says. I tell him we are all idiots, and there just doing the same thing as us.

[Old dog]

heybeartalker I agree. I have been running dogs as long s I can remember and in most western states. every where I have been seems like I ran into the same mindset. when I put out a bait it covers as much of the drainage as I can cover so I may strike a bear several miles from my bait as can anybody else with box dogs in the area. I do like to find a spot that is void of other hunters but hey, it belongs to us all and if I run into other hunters I say howdy. in most places I hunt I don't know if its possible to run a bear that isn't hitting bait somewhere either mine or somebody elses so in the end if I wanted to be sure I didn't run into anybody then I would hunt the wilderness. other wise I roll the dice and go for it.

[mulesNdawgs]

I have run it to guys that are that way around the council and riggings area to its really to bad that houndsmen have to be this way we should be helping each other not fighting each other but it happens in all hunting aspects

[dhostetler]

BBL, I am not sure if you are referring to me in your post. I have hunted that area off and on the last 10 years and have rarely seen a hound hunter in there. This area is 50 miles from a town and heavily logged with enough roads to ATV hunt for days without possibly covering all the roads. The outfitters baits were off the main road on ATV roads. I would've been a total moron to rig the roads that his baits were on had I known where they were at, as there were hundreds of miles of other roads to hunt.
I have hunted northern Idaho quite a bit and I hardly ever run into other hound guys, the ones I have run into most seem to be pretty decent. I have had more issue with bait sitters, that seem to think hound hunters purposely run off there baits. I think you southern Idaho guys need to spread out more.