Trash breaking

[jacobklein2008]

Need some ideas getting my dogs broke from deer and rabbits, they don't run them every time they cross a track but if they are bored and can't find a coyote track they'll run trash. I have a 1 year old, a 2 year old, and a 5 year old that are doing it. The one year old has been shocked twice on deer the minute she hit the track but she joins in if the other dogs jump a deer. I have tried mouse traps baited with deer scent and hair they seemed to leave them alone after the first couple times of being snapped but it obviously isn't working 100%. Any ideas would be much appreciated.

[southern fox]

you aint shocking enuf ! when one starts running trash shock him till he is either under the truck or in it and he wont want to run it anymore

[cord]

I agree with southern fox when i trash brake i drive and dump em out on every deer i see if they open up on them they get fried it only takes a couple times

[jacobklein2008]

Thanks

[Dan Edwards]

Just hunt em and if and when they jump a deer zing em til they quite. Some damn good dogs gotta be reminded every year. I don't like gimmicks and shit like that. Just take the dogs out hunting and when they screw up correct them. You will see it wont take too awful long and after awhile you will realize that a young dog jack assin around on deer aint the end of the world.

[dwalton]

A dog has to know what game you want to run before you can trash break it. I have seen a lot of dogs ruined by trying to break them before it knows what is good. I have done it myself. If it is a smart or sensitive dog it won't take much abuse. If is hard head it does matter. Dewey

[Dan Edwards]

A dog has to know what game you want to run before you can trash break it. I have seen a lot of dogs ruined by trying to break them before it knows what is good. I have done it myself. If it is a smart or sensitive dog it won't take much abuse. If is hard head it does matter. Dewey

You got that right partner. I wouldn't go getting all upset with a young dog just cuz it wants to chase a dang deer. Hell it might help it learn to track a lil bit. I damn sure wouldn't encourage it or really let it go on for long but it like I said earlier it aint the end of the world.

[al baldwin]

To each his own, however I have found starting a dog on desired game & having zero tolerance for trash running, has allowed me to train hounds with little trash issues. Living where the young dogs have deer feeding very near their kennel has also been a big plus. Agree the mouse trap & other such remedies have not worked for me. Al

[Dan Edwards]

To each his own, however I have found starting a dog on desired game & having zero tolerance for trash running, has allowed me to train hounds with little trash issues. Living where the young dogs have deer feeding very near their kennel has also been a big plus. Agree the mouse trap & other such remedies have not worked for me. Al

Al I also have zero tolerance for it. I was just messin with the teach him to track better. All I'm sayin is that I definitely don't get all wound up over it and try to resort to weirdo gimmicky shit. Just hunt and if I see something I don't like I zing em.

[dwalton]

Dan: You are right on about not getting excited about a few trash races. I sheldon run any off game with my dogs and have 3 year dogs that have never ran a deer. It is because of how they are raised and hunted and the type of dog[smart]. I feel most trash running is do to breeding and handling. That is all you have to work with when training a dog. I have seen [ and done it myself] several young dogs that have been broke from running all game because they were taught not torun game by being broke from off game. Heres the kicker, there ones that happens to are the smartest and best young prospect. The hard headed ones that it does make a difference to are the ones that I don't want or to breed. A lot of times the best ones are the ones that don't make the grade because of poor handling and training methods. Each to their own, hunt and train the dogs that you are capable of handling. Dewey

[kordog]

it sounds like you have been to easy on your hounds especially if one is 5 years old with these problems. the older ones are just teaching what you have failed to correct and you have a snowball running down hill.you have to make it not worth their while to mess with unwanted game ,but also make it enjoyable to run the right game . i have found that if you can have a lot of right game experience first and catch them the very first time with the shocker on bad game you are way ahead of keeping them on the right trail.if you know of someone who runs rabbits and would let you pack your dogs in for some shock therapy it could help with the rabbit running.the deer is going to be a bit more challenging ,but be consistent and try to make them regret running one evertime it happens.i would rather take the chance of ruining them by shocking them than have a pack of trash running fools that waste my time and money.

[dwalton]

That is one opinion. As many as there are hunting dogs, there will be different opinions. Each to their own, again hunt what works for you. Dewey