Stud fees???

[jst]

As I look through Full Cry, American Cooner, and The Hunters Horn. I see all these stud dog ads. I have seen everything from 800 dollars for a top " biggame hound" to "35 dollars breed at own risk as pups may be sorry" coyote running stud. So my question is why are some dogs fees higher? Does it not take as much time and effort to make a dog that is the best coyote running catching killing machine around. As it does a dog that runs lions, bears. As it does to make a top coon dog. Or is it a matter of supply and demand? Meaning there are more biggame hunters, and cooners than there are coyote and fox hunters.

[Shorty]

Well I'm not sure it's that at all. I think a select few people have breed for certain traits and dedicated their life to it. If those turn out to be proven desireable traits then you have something to sell. Now rember they've dedicated they're life to this. Now thew have something you want. Whats a lifetime worth or work worth. It could take you 10 15 or even 20 years to acomplish what they have. Then your just trying to copy what there brain power developed. Also worth money to me. All this time and brains adds up, especially when you add the fuel it to develope this strain $$$. If someone has what you want your money ahead just paying the stud fee. Just my personal openion.

[david]

jst,
I have often wondered also at the huge difference in the price of coyote dogs as compared to tree dogs. As long as I have been around, the coyote dogs have been much cheaper.

I love that "thirty five dollars breed at own risk as pups may be sorry"

there is a guy I would love to meet and sit around the fire with for a bit.

[Calkins]

Good question, I think it's a lot of supply and demand. I don't think there are a lot of Coyote hunters compared to Bear hunters, Cat hunters, and Coon hunters. JMO, I'm no expert on the subject but I know a few people that stud there dog out only because they like getting their wallet fat. If somebody wants to breed with one of my males just let me know, that's how I'd do it.

[Mike Leonard]

Shorty I'm with you. Ofcourse the owner can ask whatever, but what is the true value of the stud dog? What does he bring to your table remember you have to provide at least 50% of the genetic traits that will transpire, so how will they blend is this somthing you have thought about. Does the stud dog have proven reproduction record with various lines of females. Does the get of this stud have a high percentage of his most desireable traits? Lots of questions and another factor is what about the avaialability of this studs genes? Are their just all kinds of stud dogs around out of old Blue Bombers line or is he pretty special because it is not easy to find? That is the supply and demand factor.

Some stud dog owners set their price very low to breed a high number of bitches just to get their dogs name out there on a lot of paperwork. To me if the dog is truely worthy of being a stud dog this is not the way to go but that a personal thing.

Why would you run out and pay Del Cameron $800. for a pup but howl like a gut shot babboon if old Del said well if you want to breed your bitch to old Blue here I want $1500. ? Savvy? Average litter 6 pups, you sell 4 of them for $400., half Del's asking price cuz you don't have Del's big name so you have your investment back plus a little and two pups to work yourself that would have cost you that $1600. you just made.

[Nolte]

I think it's a function of what the top end value of a dog could be. Not many guys are lining up to go on a guided coyote hunt with dogs. So ol Superstar Sparky Yote Master, can't have the earning potential of a true-blue stud bear/cat/lion dog can. Plus a hide guy can't fetch $500+ like a good western cat can.

I also think yotes are easier to jump than other critters. Notice I said jump and not catch. They've got a pretty good stink to them and in decent conditions a good track can usually be jumped. Catching is an entirely different ball game all-together and it's very dependant on terrain and conditions.

I think hunting yotes is a blast. You can get races that last all day and LOTS of dog work. They are also very crafty and know all sorts of tricks to mess up dogs. A dog that can catch an old dog yote in the timber country, will usually shine on bear if it's got enough grit to stick on a mean one.

[houndcrazyfool]

why waste a good hound by training him to run yotes!... the best coyote killers are mutts

[jst]

Hey guys thanks for all your input.

And Houndcrazyfool. I won't even attempt to splain it to you.