Bobcat Dog by Dave Peightal

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What kind of numbers you need in order to publish more?
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rum3002576 wrote:What kind of numbers you need in order to publish more?
Thank you to all for the interest.

I went ahead and called to see what the prices are now; and to get an idea of a reasonable minimum number.

They have lost the file for the book.

I am guessing it is there somewhere. Or some MN liberal working there saw their opportunity and destroyed it.

Any way, the thought of simply ordering more is gone.

I have most of it saved somewhere, but the final stages where so painful, and that is what I don’t think I have. And my current computer will not read any of the files. I would have to purchase additional software.

So I apologize.

But right now I am just recovering from the news.

I Will keep you posted if I can dig deep enough to take this on again. There were multiple complications the first time. (Like loosing the entire book twice). So it is hard to think of trying it all again.

Will let you know.

Thank you again for the interest.
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David, is the file considered your property? I'd get a lawyer. There is no way that file should not be backed up multiple times
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David, I'd be in for a couple as well. Heck I still got that old map you marked up for me. A wind storm really beat up that country and the wolves moved in as well.

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You could always save it in a PDF format and sell it that way straight from you. Paypal you the money and just email a copy over. No publisher taking a % and no hassle of printing paperback and shipping. You can very easily password protect it also. It would be similar to a ebook or kindle version.
Just an idea.
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joshtee wrote:David, is the file considered your property? I'd get a lawyer. There is no way that file should not be backed up multiple times
I have mixed emotions about this. I never have been completely sure about re-printing it.

It did make me mad and frustrated, and I know I could go up there and raise a fuss.

But I want to think about some other options like maybe buying the software that will let me read the files I have. It is possible I have the whole thing. That would be the least expensive route. Probably cheaper than even making the trip up there.

Thank you for your input.
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Nolte wrote:David, I'd be in for a couple as well. Heck I still got that old map you marked up for me. A wind storm really beat up that country and the wolves moved in as well.

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Wind storms can make it a paradise/playground for the cats and just the opposite for the canines. There might be more cats then ever in there. I did encounter wolves in there occasionally. But it sounds like they have made it home. Sorry to hear it.
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cajunl wrote:You could always save it in a PDF format and sell it that way straight from you. Paypal you the money and just email a copy over. No publisher taking a % and no hassle of printing paperback and shipping. You can very easily password protect it also. It would be similar to a ebook or kindle version.
Just an idea.
Thank you for the thoughts on that. I have wondered about stuff like that, but not enough to really look into it. One thought on that is the one Goose mentioned regarding a physical book made out of trees that you can put in your hands without electricity. There is so much knowledge available on line, it seems to diminish the drive toward making the book available on line in an e format.

I was unable to send it originally via internet because it is 400 pages. I had to take them a thumb drive of it. That is when I should have kept one for myself, and I don’t think I did (for the same reason I lost the book twice before: technological illiteracy.) There has to be a way to do it though, because I am sure there are 400 page books out there on the web.

It is good to know that someone would be in favor of that; because, as you say, it would sure be easy once everything was set up correctly. And it overcomes my fear of leftover books.
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david wrote:
Wind storms can make it a paradise/playground for the cats and just the opposite for the canines.
It ain't so great for fat guys in wool pants either. Summer time can be worse with all the brush growing up through the downed trees. It's getting better but still some areas are just plain awful. I swear everytime I find some rotten country some stinking critter drags me someplace worse.

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I had a friend just contact me to offer to help with computer stuff, which was so awesome.

Here is my response which contains the latest on this process:

“I just got done digging out the laptop and digging through my stuff to see what I have. It is encouraging because I found two thumb drives with the final copy of the book on them! And my computer is reading them. So I think I am set if I don't do something stupid. I am scared to even plug them in, but so far so good.

I will try to find a different company and find out how many I would have to make to make the book affordable...”
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As an idea you could look into Amazon as your publisher. They will print as many copies as you want (I don’t know the exact price is per copy right now, but it is a fraction of what you would sell each copy for) and or they would make an electronic edition for Kindle.
It is a very affordable and accessible way to publish books.


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Thank you for the thoughts on that. I have wondered about stuff like that, but not enough to really look into it. One thought on that is the one Goose mentioned regarding a physical book made out of trees that you can put in your hands without electricity. There is so much knowledge available on line, it seems to diminish the drive toward making the book available on line in an e format.

I was unable to send it originally via internet because it is 400 pages. I had to take them a thumb drive of it. That is when I should have kept one for myself, and I don’t think I did (for the same reason I lost the book twice before: technological illiteracy.) There has to be a way to do it though, because I am sure there are 400 page books out there on the web.

It is good to know that someone would be in favor of that; because, as you say, it would sure be easy once everything was set up correctly. And it overcomes my fear of leftover books.
I agree I prefer a tangible paper book also. I listen to a lot of audio books and usually buy the paperback also to have to go back to. BUT, if it comes to that or nothing, I would surely read an ebook. And normally for small run books the cost of printing,binding, and publishing might not make it possible for the cost of making a paperback book. Hence the leaning toward a digital copy.

You can easily send a 400 page book via email in pdf format. I have many machinery manuals and books via the emailed format.

Good luck, I know the hundreds if not thousands of hours it takes in writing a project like that......seems a waste to let it die a slow death on a hard drive!
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Audiobook narrated by Yourself. Cheap Sleezy Ez.. Most of us are old enough would prefer Cassette tape?
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cajunl wrote:... BUT, if it comes to that or nothing, I would surely read an ebook. And normally for small run books the cost of printing,binding, and publishing might not make it possible for the cost of making a paperback book. Hence the leaning toward a digital copy.

You can easily send a 400 page book via email in pdf format. I have many machinery manuals and books via the emailed format.

Good luck, I know the hundreds if not thousands of hours it takes in writing a project like that......seems a waste to let it die a slow death on a hard drive!
Thank you. It is a convincing argument.

You are right about the hours spent. It is nothing compared to the hours we spend trying to make good bobcat dogs over the course of a lifetime. That is why there are not many books on bobcat hunting. You have to quit bobcat hunting to be able to write a book about it. Even at that, it took me seven years to write it.

As far as the book dying a slow death: I do have philosophical struggles over helping people abandon their families more effectively. I mention this as if in passing, but it is a huge struggle for me. It is why I have not given much thought to re-printing it. Some Freinds keep giving me ways to work through this. But it is always there some where in the background nagging at me.

But, It is the book I wish I had when I was learning. And maybe if I had, I would not have wasted so much time because my efforts would have been much more fruitful. So there you go. One of my rationalizations.

Any way, thank you for the significant input.
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Leapordcur1 wrote:Audiobook narrated by Yourself. Cheap Sleezy Ez.. Most of us are old enough would prefer Cassette tape?

I actually had recorded some of the chapters before I put it into a book. Much of the book was dictated while I drove truck through the night time expanses of lonely highway. After about three minutes listening to it, I decided subjecting human beings to this would be a real bad idea. I just don’t have that radio voice. It’s awful. I have the perfect face for radio. Just don’t have the voice.

In searching through my stuff looking for the book file recently I came across some of that audio. There is a lot that did not make it into the book also. But, that is why the horror of it is fresh in my mind.

If I did it, I would probably have to find a reader.

Thank you for the thought on that, because I have wondered if anyone would want audio of it. Cheaper than printing.
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