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Stumpmaker
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Re: A Bobcat Guide’s Bay dogs.
I must have missed something or you guys all ready have a dislike for each other!! I didn’t think he was trying to say you didn’t know what you’re talking about just giving his opinion.My opinion is chain breaking is always good and every dog’s different some get it right off and others take a while but being on a chain in the back yard and hitting a snare in the woods are two different things!! Chances are if a trapper that knows how to set a snare catches your dog by the neck it’s dead if you’re not able to get there quick! A dog in a leg snare will most likely lay there till you come get it there not like a coyote and going to chew there leg off and if they did how long would they have to be there I think quite a long time. Luckily where I live I know the trappers and they tell me where they make sets so i just avoid those places so I don’t have a problem.
Re: A Bobcat Guide’s Bay dogs.
You’re probably right. I over reacted. And yes you would have to do a little research to understand why. When the camel breaks his back, everyone just stares saying, “but it was only one little hollow straw added to the load”.Stumpmaker wrote:I must have missed something or you guys all ready have a dislike for each other!! I didn’t think he was trying to say you didn’t know what you’re talking about just giving his opinion.My opinion is chain breaking is always good and every dog’s different some get it right off and others take a while but being on a chain in the back yard and hitting a snare in the woods are two different things!! Chances are if a trapper that knows how to set a snare catches your dog by the neck it’s dead if you’re not able to get there quick! A dog in a leg snare will most likely lay there till you come get it there not like a coyote and going to chew there leg off and if they did how long would they have to be there I think quite a long time. Luckily where I live I know the trappers and they tell me where they make sets so i just avoid those places so I don’t have a problem.
I have snared a lot of animals as a trapper. Back in those days they did not have kill springs and the ram power snares. Most, but not all, of my catches were alive. Back then.
But we are in a new generation of snaring technology. It is not the feed store shopper that will have it. But the trapper will. The kill springs are only $40 for 100 of them. The ram power snares are initially pretty expensive, but the spring can be used forever.
I have taken my dog out of a Connibear trap firmly caught perfectly by the neck. She couldn’t wait to get back on the track. That seemed like the only thing she was upset about, being held up from the track. So yes, it is possible to save a dog in a snare, for sure. And old style snares, I wouldn’t even be worried about my dogs, because you have to pull on those snares for them to tighten down. And you would have to pull very hard to completely cut off air.
But kill sets is one of the reasons I tried to stay with my dogs when I could. It is way better with two people. Most traps and snares are close to a road. So when ever my dogs got near a road, I got nervous and put out extra effort to get there. With a buddy in a rig in the road, he would be there on the outside and I would be on the inside.
By the way stumpmaker. When I need a detective with amazing eyes, I will look you up. I was impressed that you picked that out at first glance. It was not on my radar at all. Just wouldn’t expect a guide to post that. But I’m sure he figured people like you would just look at it and go “man that’s a beautiful cat in that snare. Good practice for those pups.”
Thanks again.
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Stumpmaker
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Re: A Bobcat Guide’s Bay dogs.
It sure was a nice cat and a neat video anything with dogs working is right up my alley! I have also had dogs bay bobs before but it don’t usually last to long somebody just has to grab it and once one goes in the rest join right in! Haha !! Had one bob get ahold of the bottom jaw of one dog and it broke his jaw right into split right between his bottom front teeth! $3500 later he was right back at it like it never happened. I’m not saying that having dogs that are super gritty is always the best thing it gets expensive and I know I said I hunt plotts but I have a little bit of everything but mostly Plott dogs! The thing i was trying to say in my first post about his dogs is that i have never seen plott dogs give so much room on a animal to me they just looked scared Like pups that didn’t know what to do that’s how I knew right off to look for a trap because there’s no way those dogs would of held that cat there!
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al baldwin
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Re: A Bobcat Guide’s Bay dogs.
There are good reasons to have dogs chain broke, but can tell you for sure chain broke dogs have choked to death in a short time when caught in a snare that was not spring loaded. Some just panic and pull the snare tighter. Sure not trying to sell anyone short on their knowledge. Al