Types of Bear

Moonshiner · Post by **Moonshiner** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:26 pm

Do folks mostly hunt black bear or has anyone ever hunted grizzley with hounds?

Melanie Hampton · Post by **Melanie Hampton** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:03 pm

I hunt with a guy who used to be a government hunter, who got a call one night about a bear getting into peoples garbage cans.. (years and years ago) Went and loaded up and headed out... Turned his dogs out and then went and bayed this bear up in a blackberry patch.. acres of it.. (anyone who has seen the west of the Cascades-blackberry patches know what I am talking about).. Well the dogs and bear had made a tunnel that he was crawling through.. He said he could hear his dogs getting worked over hard.. Finally got in and over bleeding and a couple dead dogs, got this thing taken care of.. Said it was the toughest, meanest thing he had ever run into..

Well, turns out a local wildlife sanctuary had a female Grizzly escape and didn't report it.. That is what my friend and his hounds had bayed up in those blackberrys... He says he will stick with the black bears...

Moonshiner · Post by **Moonshiner** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:59 pm

dang, yeah ive heard stories of even a Blackie messing up several dogs bad when they are Pissed.

chilcotin hillbilly · Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:19 pm

I haven't had it happen yet but where I live grizz are all over. 1/4 of all the bears I run into have long claws. If you are roading the dogs you have to be right on top of the mutts. I fellow I know had 9 hounds on a track last year, when they got to the bayup four were left. So yes grizz can mess up a guys day!!!

bency · Post by **bency** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:43 am

chilcotin hillbilly,

so how do you hunt bear with out starting a grizzly?...is it possible to break your dogs off of them with out making them quit black bear....

hemihound0713 · Post by **hemihound0713** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:00 am

i have a friend that lives in montana. he cant hunt bear up there but u can hunt cougers. i now a few years ago he was u getting ready to hunt and let his dogs out of the box to piss and to load them on the sled. he went to grab his tracking collars and was going to pud them on the dogs when he heard them open. he says they ran to the river bottom and start baying he ran down there to see 2 dogs get killed. he ended up calling his 2 old dog off of it but ended up losting 4 younger dog in the couple of mins. he says the grizz would lay his ears down then case a dog untill he killed it. the other dogs grabbing him didnt stop him from killing the dog he wanted.

so i wouldnt want to run a grizz with my pack

alex

three rivers catahoulas · Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:14 am

I was just gonna ask if they smelled the same, because I have herd to that you can break'em off Griz but they'll still run Black bear.

chilcotin hillbilly · Post by **chilcotin hillbilly** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:08 pm

bency wrote:chilcotin hillbilly,

so how do you hunt bear with out starting a grizzly?...is it possible to break your dogs off of them with out making them quit black bear....

I see so many grizz that if the dogs are in the truck and start opening up at a grizz standing near by I give them the business with the shock collar. same as with deer or any other trash. I hope the continues to work.Long claws smell completly different to dogs and most dogs will shy away if they are alone. My buffy dog whom is are great hair pulling black bear dog is much more careful around grizz even if the bear's nolonger breathing.

chilcotin hillbilly · Post by **chilcotin hillbilly** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:15 pm

In this country you don't let the dogs go onless you can verify the track as black bear and you know its within a hour or so old. Most bears I let out on are standing in the track. The amount of wolves and grizz in the area a man would be crazy to try old tracks. If you did you would need a large kennel full of replacement hounds. In 1 evening this spring I saw 7 different grizz in 2 hours and only 2 blackies.

beaglewalkerhunter4 · Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:02 pm

wow those are some nasty stories.. but does any body have any stories about actually "succesfully" hunting a grizz

Ike · Post by **Ike** » Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:30 pm

onalimb · Post by **onalimb** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:05 pm

My older partner, and the guy who really got me going used to run into them before they were protected. He has always said a hair pulling black bear dog, is a dead Grizz dog. If you read some of the old stories, they used bay dogs, Bloodhounds and mixes. Locators is all they wanted, something that would say where it was, but wouldn't try to force it into doing anything it didn't want to. The guys in Canada that IKE is talking about are friends of mine. The dogs lost were great Black bear dogs, and had been on a lot of bears killed on the ground. All four died within sight of eachother in a rocky creek that was near verticle on the sides, as I understand it. There's been a few put up trees in this country, there has also been a few cases of dead dogs blamed on a bad Black, even though the bear was never seen.

chilcotin hillbilly · Post by **chilcotin hillbilly** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 3:08 pm

Northern Europe they run European brown bears with hounds and shoot them . Maybe one of those hunters can let us in on the tricks of the trade. those european bears are about same size as mountain grizz in North America. You deffinatly don't want a hair puller in a grizz chase.

Catch · Post by **Catch** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:25 pm

chilcotin hillbilly wrote:Northern Europe they run European brown bears with hounds and shoot them . Maybe one of those hunters can let us in on the tricks of the trade. those european bears are about same size as mountain grizz in North America. You deffinatly don't want a hair puller in a grizz chase.

A European brown is basically a Grizzly. I know several bear hunters in Sweden and have hunted with dogs that are hunted in Sweden. I have friends that have caught Grizzlies in the Alaska, Idaho and Canada. The dogs used in all cases will and do crab the Grizzly bear. Why would a bear dog not want to crab a Grizzly, but crab a Black bear?

three rivers catahoulas · Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:37 pm

Well I dont feel like donatin dogs to the grizzly found, I know fella who have got on grizz, and to compare a grizz to a black bear, is think comparin a .22 LR to a .300 Ultra Mag. When a black bear get preasured enough or is just tiered of the dogs they will most of the time climb a tree, a grizz once aggatated has no thoughts of tryin to get out of the way, they just kill whats botherin'em. I wouldn't want a hair puller if I ran in grizz country. I like rasin pups, but I dont want to be raisein pups because I dont have any older dogs to run.

Types of Bear

Types of Bear

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