A Lost Sport on the Comeback

Ike · Post by **Ike** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:39 pm

Over the past eight or ten years we've watched wildlife managers introduce bighorn sheep all over the West. Personally, I use to like to photograph those animals but know full well that the day will never come that I have a tag in my pocket to kill one. Lots of the wildlife groups are proud that they have done so well to bring back the wild sheep, but in doing so they have rallied to kill off one of the most magnificent animals that roams the high country--and that's the mountain lion.

And why not....cause it only takes one bitch lion feeding kittens off a bighorn herd to keep that population from expanding if not wipe it out. Then heaven forbid a bitch lion kill one of those $80,000 dollar
Governor Tag rams to feed her kittens. Now that would surely be a tragedy!

Life is funny, a guy pays $300 bucks a year for his hounds shots and licenses, pisses away another $25,000 dollars on a truck which he beats to hell, another $7500 bucks on a wheeler, and then a snow sled, another $3000 bucks for a shock collar and tracking collar system for training and locating, then throw in another thousand bucks to feed that pack of pot-lickers and another $5000 to $10,000 a year to hunt and train those animals, then spend ten or twenty years of your life learning the ways of the mountain lion and where to find him only to watch other do good wildlife groups and the state wildlife agency kill off the lion population so they can have wild sheep.

Well, I think that's pretty damn sad that one has to be wiped out so the other can survive. And by the way, I'm done taking photos of those damn sheep..............

Ike :roll:

nmplott · Post by **nmplott** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:36 am

yeah once in a liftime tag in NM that means only a few will be that once in a lifetime participant.

chilcotin hillbilly · Post by **chilcotin hillbilly** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:03 pm

Well said Ike. Ain't that the truth.

pat_kemp · Post by **pat_kemp** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:18 pm

Thats for damn sure we cant even go up in to some of the best hunting around here like bear top. because they are afraid that we will mess up there restoration progam. pretty retarded if you ask me. good post.
pat

Average Joe · Post by **Average Joe** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:46 pm

Great post Ike.

BlacktailStalker · Post by **BlacktailStalker** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:53 pm

Cant argue with that.

nmplott · Post by **nmplott** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:57 pm

Ike,
We have aodads on our ranch, these barbary sheep where imported by the state and have managed to adjust to our desert environment. The lion population on the ranch eat them, (the meat taste like A$$) but with the drought and the lions we have noticed a small decline in the barbary and deer populations, I am the only one who hunts the lions there, I don't kill everyone I catch (my father is a rancher and would be pissed if he knew I did not kill everyone) but I feel I have a responsibility to the ecosystem and I do my best at managing it, kill one here and there but I make damn sure I can run the dogs next month, next week and so on.

houndcrazyfool · Post by **houndcrazyfool** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 2:27 am

Here in CA we have a different idea, even worse! Dont hunt the lions just keep pooring money into sheep and ext... Yah its a shame when money f's everything up instead of looking at the best and most natural alternatives. But when i say natural.... im including man as part of the natural food chain. Most of the gov. biologists dont see it that way. The funny thing is they do it to themselves because these introduced sheep and elk here in CA are all so inbred and retarded now that they are easy lion bait. I was close to having my degree in biology and stuff like this really makes me wish i wouldve fallowed through and maybe did a little good... :roll:

TomJr · Post by **TomJr** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:20 pm

Thats right! Man is part of the natual food chain (and has been for thousands of years, heck its only been within the last 100 years that most people have stopped doing thier own killing to eat)... just wish those biologist types would see it that way. Sadly most of them have grown up watching the disney type "wildlife" shows and have a totaly scewed veiw.

bency · Post by **bency** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:26 pm

nmplott,

are those barbarys on your ranch there near the Monzano's??

nmplott · Post by **nmplott** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 2:10 pm

Mike,
I do not live on the ranch, the ranch is located near conchas lake and the canadian river.
Stephen

Rookie · Post by **Rookie** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 2:59 pm

Look's like I'm getting in to wrong pass time. I thought most houndsman didn't have a pot to piss in then acconding to Ike your all Rich

Ike · Post by **Ike** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:51 am

LOL! If somebody told you hounds was a poorboy sport and didn't require lots of time, effort and money then that person has a pretty good deal going. The sport can be pretty cheap if you're a government trapper, and the state buys your equipment and pays you a wage....but for the rest of us serious hunters hounding is a large time and money drain. Maybe that's why most of us are so proud of our dogs, our ability and somewhat defensive when challenged or attacked!

ike

mnb&t · Post by **mnb&t** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:07 pm

Rookie wrote:Look's like I'm getting in to wrong pass time. I thought most houndsman didn't have a pot to piss in then acconding to Ike your all Rich

yeah and i thought stupid people couldnt turn on a computer, but i was wrong LOL.

running hounds takes a lot of time, money, and effort. you dont have to be rich, but it sure would be nice.

happy hunting.

Rookie · Post by **Rookie** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 1:11 pm

Oh I get it I,m stupid if I don't own a snowmoblie four wheeler and a $25,000 dollar rig so I can run cat's. Any one who lives in NE is the dumb ass

A Lost Sport on the Comeback

A Lost Sport on the Comeback

population control and evolution