Bounty on Lions in Nevada

[Ridge Runner]

Assemblymen Gerald Claiborn is now proposing a $500 bounty for anyone that brings in a lion to the Dept. of Wildlife and doing away with all harvest objectives.

Last year he proposed delisting the lion from the big game list and anyone could shoot one on site with NO regulations.

His reason for getting rid of the Mtn lion in NV is greed for higher deer and sheep numbers. He and his supporters cant seem to understand that predator populations follow that of their prey and that with several million acres of burned winter range, and competition with ferral horses, NV can only support a certain number of critters.

Next meeting date is Feb 7th in Reno to stop this agenda. If this goes through we will get sued by the enviromental groups and the next thing you know we will end up like CA and wont even be able to hunt the great cats in our State!

[Cal Bryant]

Ridge runner,
wow they are at it again when did this thing start up this time. I dont get to any of these meetings but when they were trying to delist them there was a petition going around and a few letters that you could email and sent to the states congress people and tell them no way on it. Thaks for bringing this to our attention!!!
Cal

[Ridge Runner]

Just got back from SCI in Reno and heard some more great news. They are also proposing three lions per hunter and they want to use all the money collected from the heritage tags for predator eradication. They are also proposing to kill every lion possible in area 6. I think they hate my guts and this is how they are getting even. I have had enough of these idiots. I wish they would get educated on what is really going on out there before they ruin our sport. Get all houndsmen and women to the Reno meeting on Feb 7th. Agenda is available on ndow.org

[sow flat slim]

I live here in Ca. and am sending comments to these idiots, will be respectful to them, and I am sure there are other non residents who hunt in Nevada, wouldnt hurt for them to hear about this from non-residents as well.

[savage]

Thanks sow fat slim!

I will be at the meeting in reno to speakout against this!!!! (had to take a day off work, but its worth it)

[liontracker]

I have an idea and it just might work. Here in Colorado, the anti's sued the Division of Wildlife, in an effort to ban Lion hunting with hounds. It caused a big public stink and the D.O.W. had to spend 10 million on a 5 yr Lion study. We now have more lions than ever and we still have our Lion season. Why don't you guys sue your state Wildlife Agency for wrongful neglect or something. That will definately get there undivided attention and will pull the houndsmen together on this issue. You should be able to get what you want done.

[houndnhorse]

I just talked with my buddy on the game board and he showed me the agenda in Reno. The stuff we need to be present for will be on Friday morning. The predator agenda, and Claibornes deal. I saw your letter bruce, very well said. If each and every one of us send a letter they will all be put into the official record. Just send your letter to Brandon Fordin at bsfordin@yahoo.com, and he will make sure it gets in. The Elko county game board meeting is this Wednesday at 6PM at the county court house. All the heavy hitters for the other side will be there, so please come if you are able. Thanks. Mike

[houndnhorse]

Here is something I posted some time ago with some good info.

I just found this on another site and this gal is dead on. The Hunters alert crew here in Nevada has finall got enough numbers on the Game Commission to shove this down our throat. If you want to keep hunting lions in Nevada please get involved.

Hello one and all. I'm new on this board and wanted to post some information that is critical to NV and needs action taken now. Our legislators are at it again. Trying to pull a fast one.

First I'll give you a quick history of myself & hubby. My husband and myself live in N. NV. Right now we own 8 hounds, but been up to as many as 15. My husband loves to hunt mountain lions and has done so for at least 28 years, I've been in the mix for 16 years. We have just about every color of hound there is. We live on 10 acres, have a couple of cows, couple of sheep, couple of chickens. My husband is a underground miner (shifter) and I'm now unemployed but was working as a underground Geology sampler but use to work fires and thinking about going back to that game. That's a quick very short who I am. If any of you know Bob Mc from some of the other hunting forums, he can vouch for me. Usually I don't name drop, but this is urgent and I don't have time for you all to get to know me.

A retired Fish and Game Warden got ahold of one of the outfitters here just the other day. Mike Hornburger in fact. From there Mike got ahold of another outfitter and that outfitter got ahold of his sub-guide and his sub-guide got ahold of us, That is how I found out about this.
What they are trying to do (our wonderful government ) is get the mountain lion off the Big Game list and put on the predator list. Than they want to fly to kill them. We do NOT want that to happen. They could have voted on this Friday but didn't and we just found out about it yesterday, so I'm trying to get the word out so everyone can voice their opinion and Vote on this.

Please follow the links to learn more -

https://www.leg.state.nv.us/74th/opinio ... #EnterInfo - Please Vote at this site


Go to Jerry Claborn’s web site and vote on the wildlife survey. 84% of the 178 people that voted said Mtn. lions should be delisted and are the reason for the decline in deer in NV.
http://www.jerrydclaborn.com/




This is a quote from one of the guides

Quote:
Some of the highlights at the legislature today were,



¾ of the time allotted for AB259 to deregulate Mtn. Lions were given to those who supported the bill

they had Dr’s, Lawyers, and several others that claim the answer to increasing deer and sheep is to rid NV of all predators and shazaam….. =o:p>

Mike Hornbarger was the only outfitter who spoke at the session (nearly kicked out of the meeting for name calling)

Larry Johnson was shown (in bold format) the amendment to the constitution that gives the assemblymen the right to address issues and make decisions

Larry also pointed out that our county game boards, state game boards, and John Q public make a great team when it comes to addressing issues and making decisions but was overruled by Mr. Claborn.

There were several people that made comments against the bill. A 26 year old gentleman, cant remember his name, gave some great points. The best being that if we de-list lions, NDOW will no longer keep records of them and all it will take is another team of anti hunters to cry Wolf or in this case Lion and we now have NV’s first protected predator!

The way I see it they pretty much are unprotected except that we have to buy a tag for $29 and take them in & or inspection when harvested.



I watched via internet on http://www.leg.state.nv.us/ go to listen or view and it shows live meeting.


And from what I gather the environmentalist are keeping their mouths shut. They want this to pass, so they can claim that the lions are endangered, and if that happens, no more lion hunting. As it is now, very few units are being filled as is. Lions aren't the problem. Fish and Game is the problem along with piss poor management of deer. Fire is another one to blame. Disease is another issue that can be blamed.

I gather another issue behind this is Desert Big Horn Sheep. Blaming lions for the decline. From what I gather this is a issue coming from Vegas folks. Need I say more ? I just wonder how many have even seen a desert bighorn sheep, not counting the ones that come in to feed by Lake Mead and are protected.

Now the ranchers around here (some, not all) will be happy about this bill, but you got to get them to realize this is the beginning of the end and no more lion hunting once the environmentalists come in. And they will be trying to come in. We do NOT want to be another CA. We don't want to wipe out the lions. Period. We want them to breed for many years to come and be able to hunt them with dogs for years to come.

Please follow the links and vote at both sites and make comments. PLEASE pass this information on to as many Nevadans as you can. The sooner the better.

Thank You
Chasin12hounds

[Buddyw]

houndsnhorse,

Please send me a email or PM, Include a "short" summary of the problem, what message we would like to convey and where to direct our comments and phone calls.

I will try and send this out on the email system. It's not very large yet but if people can the email and pass it around quickly via Email it might help.. It's easier to spread the word via Email than it is via this board alone.

If you haven't already signed up I would recomend it.

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Buddy