Jaguar bayup

[Shorty]

The above picture was taken by Warner himself in 2006. Almost ten years to the day that he bayed the first one. The first jaguar was bayed in New Mexico and the second in Arizona. The two locations are not far from eachother although you do cross the state line. I wish you could all hear Warner tell the stories of both these beautiful animals. They both came as a surprise to the Glenns and fulfilled a life long dream for Warner. With sadness in his eyes he thanks his father Marvin who is now in the beautiful hunting lands far above us. Warner believes Marvin had something to do with him getting to see both of these wonderful animals.

As for the snares go, They do not snare anywhere near the mountain ranges where these jags were bayed. They do target lions in the surroundind areas but they try avoiding the jaguars. You can bet the person that cought the last jag is moving on to a new area to hang his snares.

I hope some day I'll get to see one ot these jags looking through my pack of dogs. I hope everyone on this board gets a chance to look one eye to eye. Good luck and happy hunting.

[DerekE]

Shorty,
What do you hunt down in south TX? I go down there pretty regular cat hunting.
Derek

[onalimb]

I would travel a hell of a long journey just to see that in the wild and be able to capture it on film. Mr. Glenn must be something of an accomplished photographer in his own right besides a legendary houndsmen.

[TomJr]

More info about the collared jag from AZ, took this off an E-mail from AZ game and fish Enjoy

Early data received from the tracking device on a recently captured and collared jaguar in Arizona is already giving biologists a better understanding of the cat’s movement and foraging patterns.
The male cat was incidentally captured Feb. 18 in an area southwest of Tucson during a research study aimed at monitoring habitat connectivity for mountain lions and black bears. It was the first capture and collaring of a wild jaguar in the United States. The jaguar was fitted with a satellite tracking collar and then released.

With nearly a week’s worth of data, the Arizona Game and Fish Department noted that the jaguar moved several miles after collaring to a very high and rugged area that the cat has been known to use in southern Arizona. The animal has stayed in that general vicinity for a few days with apparent patterns of rest and visits to a nearby creek. During the collaring, the cat appeared to have just fed on prey, which will aid its recovery and allow it to go for a period of time without feeding.

The satellite tracking technology will allow biologists to study diet and feeding patterns to learn more about the ecological requirements of the species in borderland habitats.

Scientists have also confirmed the identification of the collared animal: The cat is Macho B, an older male cat that has been photographed by trail cameras periodically over the past 13 years.

Macho B is believed to be the oldest known jaguar in the wild. His age was estimated at two to three years old in photographs taken in 1996, making him 15-16 years old now. Previously the oldest known jaguar in the wild was 13 years old.

“Every indication is that Macho B is doing well and has recovered from his capture and collaring,” says Terry Johnson, endangered species coordinator for the Arizona Game and Fish Department. “With so little known about how jaguars move throughout our state, every little piece of data helps us understand more about the population segment that uses southern Arizona and New Mexico as the northern part of its range. Until now, all we’ve had is a photo here and a photo there, but nothing that shed light on what the species does while moving within or between habitats.”

The GPS tracking collar provides location points for the animal every three hours. While there are no regulations on the appropriate size of a tracking collar, experts agree that a collar should weigh no more than 3-5 percent of the animal’s body weight. At less than two pounds, Macho B’s collar is less than two percent of his body weight, and it should not impede his normal movements and ability to catch prey.

The tracking collar was donated by North Star Science and Technology and was specifically programmed for a jaguar in the event this species was incidentally captured during other wildlife management activities.

The collar has a unique feature with a special signal to indicate if the jaguar crosses the international border with Mexico.

Mortality due to predation from other large predators, injuries sustained during prey hunts, roadway crossing, disease, accidents or natural causes is possible.

More specific information on the capture location is being protected under the Game and Fish Department’s standard operating procedure not to release location data on threatened and endangered species and for legal reasons that may leave the department liable for “take” violations under the Endangered Species Act.

The species has been listed outside of the United States under the Endangered Species Act since 1973. That protection was extended to jaguars within the U.S. in 1997, the year after their presence in the Arizona and New Mexico borderlands was confirmed.

In 1997, the Jaguar Conservation Team was established in Arizona and New Mexico to protect and conserve the species.

Jaguars once ranged from southern South America through Central America and Mexico and into the southern United States. By the late 1900s, jaguars were thought to be gone from the U.S. landscape, but two independent sightings in 1996 confirmed that jaguars still used Arizona and New Mexico as part of the northernmost extent of its range.

[Shorty]

Thanks for that tomjr. Keep us updated pnce in awhile if you don't mind.

[Ike]

Good lord, all this talk about the jaguar makes a guy want to load those hounds and head south don't it?

ike

[chilcotin hillbilly]

Good lord, all this talk about the jaguar makes a guy want to load those hounds and head south don't it?

ike

YOur not kidding Ike, that would be a catch of a life time for anyone. The only problem I can see is once the biologists establish a range might they close that area for hound hunting to protect the rare jaguar.

[Ike]

That's a really good question and one that only time will provide the answer to. I wouldn't put anything past those federal regulations or the radical, narrow views that are held by some behind the endangered species programs..........

Just look at the problems we now face by allowing those same ideas to bring the Canadian Wolves into Wyoming and Idaho..........

ike

[.25-06]

Macho B is dead...The cat was recaptured and euthanized cause he suffered kidney failure. The story is on the arizona game and fish website.

[Grzyadms4x4]

It makes you wonder if game and fish inadvertently had something to do with it. I'm thinking he was old, had weak kidneys and couldn't really recover from the tranquilizer. Just my $.02.

Zach

[liontracker]

Just goes to show that the game and fish is not the demi god they thiink they are.
They should have just left well enough alone. Wonder if they can be sued for wrongful death of an endangered species?

[.25-06]

Just goes to show that the game and fish is not the demi god they thiink they are.
They should have just left well enough alone. Wonder if they can be sued for wrongful death of an endangered species?

I'll bet the anti's are already on it...

[AZDOGMAN]

good i hope they get there bumb asses sued.

[Grzyadms4x4]

Really, I disagree. I think sueing is the last thing that should be done. What's it going to do, who would it benefit? I don't believe that Arizona was ever a large portion of the jag habitat and I think any lawsuit would only help the anti's close down a portion of our state to possibly ALL hunting. From what I understand jaguars mainly inhabit the countries south of the border. Not to say that there never were any here, there was some. but not enough to make any hubub about or close down land for. In my opinion, they shouldn't be listed as an endangered species as they were never really here. Now, what they should do is chalk it up to a learning experience and move on with their other research; as there are quite a few organizations already trying to find these animals in southern AZ and NM. The best thing they could do is have some hounddoggers go down and bay em up and report back with how many they bayed. Bet it ain't many. That suing crap is for California and the like not Arizona!

[AZDOGMAN]

i guess the results are in and the capture of the cat was the reason for his death. I hope they get a taste of their own medicine and get sued for their part in his death.