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new military oath????

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don’t know if this is true, but if it is, we are going to loose this country. This crap needs to stop NOW!



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>>
>>
>> Secretary of Defense Robert Gates is extremely frustrated with orders
>> that
>> the White House is contemplating. According to sources at the
> Pentagon,
>> including all branches of the armed forces, the Obama Administration
>> may
>> break with a centuries-old tradition.
>>
>> A spokesman for General James Cartwright, the Vice Chairman of the
>> Joint
>> Chiefs of Staff, states that the Obama Administration wants to have
>> soldiers
>> and officers pledge a loyalty oath directly to the office of the
>> President,
>> and no longer to the Constitution.
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>> "The oath to the Constitution is as old as the document itself." the
>> spokesman said, "At no time in American history, not even in the Civil
>
>> War,
>> did the oath change or the subject of the oath differ. It has always
>> been to
>> the Constitution."
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>> The back-and-forth between the White House and the Defense Department
>> was
>> expected as President George W. Bush left office. President Obama has
>> already signed orders to close Guantanamo and to pull combat troops
>> from
>> Iraq. But, this, say many at the Defense Department, goes too far.
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>> "Technically, we can't talk about it before it becomes official
>> policy." the
>> spokesman continued. "However, the Defense Department, including the
>> Secretary, will not take this laying down. Expect a fight from the
>> bureaucracy and the brass."
>>
>> Sources at the White House had a different point of view. In a
> circular
>> distributed by White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, the rationale
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>> for
>> the change was made more clear.
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>> "The President feels that the military has been too indoctrinated by
>> the old
>> harbingers of hate: nationalism, racism, and classism. By removing an
>> oath
>> to the American society, the soldiers are less likely to commit
>> atrocities
>> like those at Abu Ghraib."
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>> "We expect a lot of flak over this," the classified memo continues.
>> "But
>> those that would be most against it are those looking either for
>> attention
>> or control."
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>> The time frame for the changes are unknown. However, it is more likely
>
>> that
>> the changes will be made around the July 4th holiday, in order to
>> dampen any
>> potential backlash. The difference in the oath will actually only be
>> slight.
>> The main differences will be the new phrasing. It is expected that the
>
>> oath
>> to the Constitution will be entirely phased out within two years.
>>
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if attempted this would likely spark a mutiny, just like an armed "national security service" would spark violence from a lot of service members.
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Don't worry, there is enough good ol' boys in the military that would actually stand up against it. At that point, all signed contracts would have to be redone and it would never fly.
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The urban folk had better wake up and stop chipping away at the back bone of this country. They take food, power, water and every thing else for granted! I have a couple of Quotes I'd like to pass on - I'm sure most of you have heard them, but maybe you could send them on to some that have not. A 5 Star General passed this on to me a few years ago from another General - Quote "War is an ugly thing - but not the ugliest of things. The degraded state of mind and patriotic feeling that thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse! Those who believe nothing is worth war are miserable creatures who can only be made and kept free by better men than themselves."

I have another I'll post later - have to get me chores done.
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I for one would never do it, Me and my fellow soldiers had a talk about this the other day and givin the amount of guy's that wont go against the consitution and against fellow americans if we were ordered to do so.This administration might be stiring a pot of trouble they didnt expect.I can only assume the number of fellow soldiers that feel like we all do are in the thousands and I'm not talking a few thousand either.
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God bless you Chad, and thank you for your service!
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Didn't Hitler's men have to pledge their devotion to him?

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