What do you think of those fenced in hunting operations?

[Catch]

Not really. It is not against the law so how is it wrong. I choose not to hunt that way by choice. If people have a high fence hunting business, and clients want to pay and hunt that way, why should I say it is wrong.

Look at it this way. Do you want high fence owners trying to shut down hound hunting?

[larry]

oh yeah, if you want to go into ethics, take a look in the mirror. How many would view certain hound training methods as ethical???? Ponder that one for a while crack.

[bigboarstopper]

Well I have to say Ive learned a few lessons since it started this post. #1, Never post anything after you have had too much to drink. #2 one mans trash is another mans treasure. Although I havent changed my mind on how I feel about the high fence thing I must still appolgise. Because if some folks consider it hunting I must support it. Somone else said in here that we all have to support hunting in all aspects. Wether you approve or not. Because one day we are going to need the support from other hunters who dont necessaraly approve of our methods. I appologose to all those I have offended and in the future I will support our hunting sports as a whole.

[livetohunt]

I would have to say thank you for opening your eyes. We all as hunters and outdoor men and women must stick together. Its like the Bow hunters saying that if you hunt with a gun thats not sport. Or fly fishermen saying thats the only true fishing. Its really all just an bunch of BS. What its really about is men, women and children enjoying the outdoors.

I have never hunted on a game ranch but would love to see my wife and kids be able to take game that they will never have the chance to in the wild. And as for it being like fish in a barrel, I know that some of the game ranches out there are larger then many states. I would think that hunting on one of the larger ranches would be alot like being in the wild. I know the King Ranch in TX is 825,000 acres, I dont care how tall there fence is thats wild. How many acres do you hunt on?

[catdogs]

I don't agree with high fence shooting, plain and simple, its not fair chase when the animal is in an enclosure. It may be a big area and it may take time, but you still know its within the fence and can't escape. I am however very pro private property rights and I also support all legal forms of hunting whether I agree with it or not!

[arizonabeagle]

This is not even a topic. If its fenced in its not HUNTING pierod. Go out and shoot a beef in a field or a hog in a pin is that hunting NO . ther feed and watered in a fenced eare 365 day a year well you know where thier going to be DUUUH.

Well, I tried to paint another point of view, the realistic one, but I see there are still people spewing stupidity and ignorance So I guess I'll steer this one towards the cage and just say that i think I can hear balls hitting LDcloud in the face from where I am sitting right now. Pretty sure he just took a load to the face

real classy there larry
you should be proud bud

i think they take the HUNT out of the hunt with those fences

if you KNOW its that its GAURANTEED..that aint being a sportsman..you might as well just pay for a mount of whatever it is that some one else shot and skip all the cold weather and early morning.
its not just about the kill people..jesus is there anyone out there that enjoys anything but the kill??
a succesfull day to me is goin out, gettin away from the house and all the bullshit..and i sure as hell wouldnt pay someone for that when i can do it myself
but sure if payin some one to let you come on their land and kill the biggest elk, deer or whatever helps your ego fine, do it...but it just aint for me
just my .2

[larry]

hey thanks man!

[liontracker]

What it really boils down to, is Boone and Crocket inches and wether you can afford it.
After that ethics come into play, such as the size of the fenced area for one. Unfortunately, politics being what they are, ethical behavior is tweaked to the best interest of the parties involved. After a few years, what was unethical, gradually becomes ethical.

[arizonabeagle]

What it really boils down to, is Boone and Crocket inches and wether you can afford it.
After that ethics come into play, such as the size of the fenced area for one. Unfortunately, politics being what they are, ethical behavior is tweaked to the best interest of the parties involved. After a few years, what was unethical, gradually becomes ethical.

a 100% agree with the part about unethical behavior becoming ethical
couldnt of said it better

[Borderpond]

Its kind of funny.I have heard this same type of arguing before.It was people arguing over the ethics of shooting a bear out of a tree after dogs chased it there.Also heard the same thing about shooting baited bears.Even hunting deer from a treestand isnt immune to the fact that some see it as unethical.

My opinion, if its not illegal and you want to do it, go for it.Far be it for me to criticize someone elses manner of hunting.

[Pops]

ethics are often regulated by the same fad mentality that determines the most popular cloths & music. much of what is now considered unethical once was. roosevelt went out of his way to whack a bison because he wanted to get one before they went extinct this is something no modern sportsman would consider ethical. he also shot numerous elk, deer & sheep in a single hunt and ate little or no meat from any of them and did this on many occassions and this was after noting the game was in decline. in his day this wasn't considered unethical. in his day dogs were used for deer in every part of the country (he hunted them this way also), but it is now illegal in most of the places he hunted. the funny thing is i can strongly argue the biological superiority of dogging deer & elk and point out that it is in fact a LESS successful means of hunting than tree standers & spot & stalk but those are the first guys to throw all dogging under the bus.

if it's not illegal I'll support it & more importantly i'll try to figure out how to defend it effectively in arguement. because ultimately if you can't defend the worst of it, it's real hard to defend the best of it.

[Cowboyvon]

You know I don't see anything wrong with it.. its not really my cup of tea and would never pay to do it but if someone wants to pay the money to do it that's fine with me. Now I don't like to see them on TV on those outdoor shows or anything like that.. it just doesn't look good and to the people who don't understand it could hurt all of us.

Of course I just went out and made a circle with a guy that told me they should close the lion season down from November to March and have it open the rest of the time... said it was too easy to catch lions in the snow

[Mike Leonard]

Cowboy Von,

I like that idea of that old boy's. Fact is I am going to start a petition in Santa Fe for it what do you thin could we get some signatures down there? LOL!

It is a hell of a deal when an 85 year old man looks at a young buck like you and says somthing like that. Ofcourse I am a little bit older than you but it would still sort of chill me to the bone becasue deep down I know he means it.

I'd just have to tell O. F. listen ,no more threat than I am to these here lions they just should do away with seasons all together. LOL!

[Big Mike]

O. F. use to go to the comission meetings and say the same thing try to get the lion season moved to summer months.

Bret thats one hell of a bucket of knowledge your riding with if its O. F. I would stick to his heels like glue cause there none better

[killemallboy]

it is wierd how some would jump at the oppertunity to bash this ranch but like it was said hard work and a family is in this so dont bash before you tryit and it maybe for some but maybe not for others thanks oh by the way i posted this about the ranch for a friend and big boar stopper here is my # if you want to bash this futher 760-898-9341