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What are best for cats males or females?

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I believe there are top dogs in both males and females. just wondering if someone may be bias. A guy around here that probably catches the most bobcats that i know of has been hunting all females for at least 10 years. i prefer all females but i have had a male for two years now and he's a dandy. i have another friend that hunts all males. these men just do this so that they can go on hunting all season and not have any bs. thought it might be interesting to see.
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Jake,

Dad chuckles when asked this question!

He answers that Sex is like color, there are so many more things to look for that unless you have a particular circumstance Sex just does not matter!

Having said that, in the Past, Glen and I have pressed Dad and this is his answer! He has had more outstanding Male Hounds, However the two Best Bobcat Hounds he has bred, raised and hunted were both Females.

But unless you spayed your good bitches or Hunt all bitches you will do with out them a month to 6 weeks each year. With Dad he says that this always occurs when he needs them the most!

Hope this helps!

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I hunt only males now but not becuase I think they are better hunters. I keep all my dogs together so I don't want any females around.

Every wonder why there are more female dogs for sale on these boards then males? Almost a 2:1 ratio.
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My best cold trailing dogs have always been females. The best all around dog Ive had was male. The grittyest dog i ever had was a female. Females seem to start quicker and handle a little easier. I know a few lion hunters that hunt only females and say they trail better. I think that it has more to do with females spend less time sniffn butts and piss'n on everything, and more time hunting.

I got tired of growly ass males so i nuetered all but 2 that i wanted for breeding. Seems to have helped there hunting too
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In the area where I started hunting, the old time bobcat hunters that had recently died and were soon to die, all hunted females. And on top of that, they usually had them spayed! Now you can see how all those dogs were lost forever. These were hunters and not breeders. They would not be bothered with the male nonsense, nor would they be bothered by the female problem. These men felt the females made better bobcat dogs. You could ask them why, except that they are all dead.

I have mostly hunted females, and cant stand most males. If peeing on bushes, etc, etc, etc, is more important to them than hunting I wont keep them. If a male stiffens up at another male, it is pretty much over between me and him after the third time. Three strikes and your out! I, along with other hunters of females I have known, do not stop hunting a female when she is in heat. In an all female pack, I have never had an accidental pregnancy because of doing this. But beleive me, if you loose a dog in this condition, you will swet a few bullets.
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All good replys
I hunt all females. never spayed one, but I am fixing to.
I just like, um better. Females handle better on the cats.
I also like girls better than boys.
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From my experience I find that if you have all males they work well, their is not much jocking for the alpha position until you throw a female, then you get that crap. With females, they so desire the pack mentalilty and will adopt this alpha mentality. The males from what I have noticed have it but it is a real loose system. With all that being said I can not see how sex would matter in the hunting world unless you are promoting a litter or stud as we are just talking about who hunts better.
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This is a question that can never be answered as there are top females and males. If this question would ask which do you prefer to hunt on bobcat male or female then someone could give their opinion on why they like one or the other but to say which one is the BEST cant be answered. I have had both and have seen both. If someone was to answer one of the two it would be based on just their opinion. later, Andy
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Andy's post says it all. You'll never be able to answer this question outright. Just like you could never say a certain breed is better then another. My best bobcat dog about 20 years ago was a female but I don't hunt any females now. This is because 11 years ago, I had an idea to only run all females or all males. At the time, I had males that were better then females so I went with all males, simple as that. It is the best thing I've ever done. I run all males now. They live together all the time, sleep, eat and play all day long every day together. I've not had one fight in 11 years. They hunt extremely well together and the younger pups always take on traits of the older dogs. I don't have any desire to breed my own dogs. I let that to some others that are much better at it then I could ever want to be.
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Picking a sex is like picking a color, i like that answer the best. like the first thing i said there are great dogs in both. just for grins yes i probably should of put which do you prefer instead of which is best. but i was looking for a little bias. i have de horned three male dogs one ended up being a really bad deal. got fat no matter how much you hunted him or fed him. and went down in the back end. the other two were just the same as they always were maybe even a little better. i will never do it again because of the one. if i have to cut them, i might as well cull them. i have always had better luck with the females. and the best dog i've ever owned is a female. i have had some really good male dogs though. like i said before i have one male dog now. he is out of the best cat stock that i have personally hunted with. and the guy i got him from is the guy that hunts all females. that is why i ended up having to get a male. once he's gone i seriously am going to try to do the all female thing. just so i can keep them all in one dog lot. keep em coming fun and friendly
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That has to be a retorical question. I have been hunting cats for near on to forty years and I have had some of the best bobcat dogs that there has ever been male and female alike. I have seen that your foundation breed walker dogs such as Sackett and Finley River have the most bottom end and cold nosed ability and just out and out intelligence that a lot of newer breeds seroiusly lack. As English dogs go, Swamprooster and Woodstock have always been outstanding dogs, but when the Penny's from Missouri put their twist on the Kojack, Diesel, and Dr. Evil bloodlines they revolutionized the English hound with unmatched grit and intelligence, and an almost human sense of ability. The only dog that can run competion with these bloodlines are the four mentioned walker bloodlines or the unstoppable Utchman line of blueticks. Not to be confused with the over-rated, useless tubs of goat lard Cameron line of blueticks which are really blue gascons, not even real American bluetick hounds. These dogs are unpredictable, slab-footed, weak-ankled, poodle-nosed jokes to any real Big Game Houndsman. These are not idle rumors these are first hand facts that I have experienced. The few exceptions being cross-breeding your Camerons or trading them off to a sucker for a good Utchman dog.
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Sherry Bannert wrote:That has to be a retorical question. I have been hunting cats for near on to forty years and I have had some of the best bobcat dogs that there has ever been male and female alike. I have seen that your foundation breed walker dogs such as Sackett and Finley River have the most bottom end and cold nosed ability and just out and out intelligence that a lot of newer breeds seroiusly lack. As English dogs go, Swamprooster and Woodstock have always been outstanding dogs, but when the Penny's from Missouri put their twist on the Kojack, Diesel, and Dr. Evil bloodlines they revolutionized the English hound with unmatched grit and intelligence, and an almost human sense of ability. The only dog that can run competion with these bloodlines are the four mentioned walker bloodlines or the unstoppable Utchman line of blueticks. Not to be confused with the over-rated, useless tubs of goat lard Cameron line of blueticks which are really blue gascons, not even real American bluetick hounds. These dogs are unpredictable, slab-footed, weak-ankled, poodle-nosed jokes to any real Big Game Houndsman. These are not idle rumors these are first hand facts that I have experienced. The few exceptions being cross-breeding your Camerons or trading them off to a sucker for a good Utchman dog.
SO IM GUESSING YOU LIKE FEMALES AND NOT MALES OR WAS THAT THE OTHER WAY AROUND :lol:
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ok I just have to! to begin I will respond with my reply to the original thread I prefer females if I could only hunt one dog it would be a female, I like there nature a little better however that doesnt make them the best over males, personally I like what both bring to the table and I like to hunt my dogs in pairs of one male and one female who compliment each other in abilities. Now as for some of the comments made lets clear some things up, first most of the bloodlines mentioned in a certian post are strictly competition style hounds, and have not been proven on big game or much of anything else of late for that matter. Before I can go any farther I am not biast when it comes to breeds I prefer the bluetick of old fashioned type but thats my preference. Camerons are not blue gascons they are blueticks, they go back to the vaughn, clearwater, and sabastian hounds, some of these very same dogs produced the utchman hounds, and the utchmans were once very good competition hounds but arent so any more, they have never had a big name in the big game world, because they were not developed for it. Back to the camerons, the camerons are more consitant then most modern strains and I think this makes people angry oh well............... Like I said before I am not breed biast however some people are and they think that there prefered breeds sh-dont-stink but guess what sometimes it does........The walker has many great dogs but they are not all gifts from god, and to clear something else up finley river, and sacket lines dont always make the best all around dogs for big game, sorry but they dont, there are walker strains out there that are more consistant, and alot colder nosed, some registered some grade, as for the english, the kojack, diesal and doctor evil blood lines are not the best strains for big game hunting either, these dogs just like some of the other mentioned strains have been bred for the comp world because of there hunting style and yes they are good at it but bob cat hunting and competition coon hunting are not the same thing. Last but not least a blue gascon is an american hound, a grande bleu gascogne is a french hound and alot of our nose in all of our breeds comes from the grande bleu as well as the blood hound, alot of our brain comes from the early cur in our hounds and especially in our walker breed our gameness and drive comes from a little"black and tan hound" so when we look at our hounds as breeds we should remember the dogs and traits they carried and passed on in order to form our modern hounds.
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Bluetick 78,

Thank You very much for your Post ref. the prev.Post

Dad has us kids schooled that if you can not say something good, say nothing at all. He also said that it is better to keep ones mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

The source this new poster mentions would fall in the first class mentioned above, the New Poster would fall into the last!

Just my thoughts!

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PS Hipshooter started a thread that one of the new Posts above might be more suited on. It is on this page at this time and has had some great and humerous Posts!
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That lady sure don't like Camerons.
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