Catchin bears

Farmhand · Post by **Farmhand** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:54 am

Hey, B&TMan1, what are the temperatures you are running in? That sounds like a great time. We don't have a bear season here so there really isn't alot going on right now. The temperatures here have been in the mid-high 90's, too. Just catching some coon here and there to train pups on cool evenings. My hounds are old timey AKC stock out of coon, cat, bear stock. I have a female and two males. I like the Duncan hounds, too. They have a good, houndy appearance and heavy head that I like, too. Hunziker has some good looking hounds, too, and they have the desired gaminess, also. Oh, hell, there's alot of good black dogs out there.

biggsnell · Post by **biggsnell** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:24 am

i sent ya a pm on the ukc forum. feel free to reply here this looks like a good site.

Hound 1 · Post by **Hound 1** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:38 pm

a piece of advice, don't buy them duncan dogs, they aren't being bread the same these day's, the older lines are alot better, and if you have some older lines you should be able to smoke a bear in 90 degree heat, and dry ground? isn't that how you always hunt the bear unless it snow's?

CDH · Post by **CDH** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:13 pm

Hey Hound 1 I got a Duncan dog out of the stuff kens breeding now I would put up against anything around. No sense in tearing a guy down on the website. :evil:

Black&TanMan1 · Post by **Black&TanMan1** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:12 pm

Hound 1 Ive got to agree with you some what. I dont care for the newer line of dogs Ken has. Most of mine are from his older lines. But CDH is right a guy shouldnt cut onther mans dogs down on these sites. It can come back to bight you in the butt. But I wont be buying another one directly out of his kennel unless he goes back to some of his older lines. The dogs dont even look the same as the ones he used to breed.

mixed bunch · Post by **mixed bunch** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:03 pm

i have to agree with you B&TM. i have ran with other guys dogs fromDuncan that cann't do a thing hell some of them would not even get out of the box. there is a few lines to get from though. i have one from sketter and cricket and now a few other guys that picked up dogs from that line and they are doing amazing things

Farmhand · Post by **Farmhand** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:25 pm

Can't really blame Ken for that in reality, though. It is possible that he got backed into a genetic corner(it happens) through unforeseen circumstances and had no choice but to outcross a little. Guy like that ain't gonna just start breeding substandard dogs. Keep an eye on the future and see what happens.

black eye · Post by **black eye** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:58 am

Bnt, man readin a little history here fell across this. what old blood or dogs do you have from duncan? i'v hunted with some of the older blood and seen just what can be done.

Black&TanMan1 · Post by **Black&TanMan1** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:49 am

Duncans Black Canyon Bow
Duncans Misty
Duncans Hard Tac Roudy
Duncans Echo'n Mandy
Duncans Black Buck
Not realy an old old line but better than the last couple from
Sweetwater Chief
Shadow
have had two females from these now and both were extremely timid and built like bassets. I do like the other ones alot though.

black eye · Post by **black eye** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:54 am

bntman1, looks like some nice lines. iv seen some dogs out of that bo dog they seemed to be nice dogs. im just looking for some lines that go back to what he had in the mid to late 90s. i have a dog out of that skeeter, hanna cross i like that dog.if you have any leads to locate those lines that would be awesome.

live to hunt · Post by **live to hunt** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:11 am

This looks like a b&t colum! Do you guys know of the whitcurs black smokey & smokey II dogs and how a guy could track one down? THe other blood is Myers Might Hoss that I am looking for.

mixed bunch · Post by **mixed bunch** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:24 pm

Duncan still has some lines coming out of skeeter. my last dog from him is about 1 1/2 came from skeeter line. might give him a call

Rigdogs · Post by **Rigdogs** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:38 am

Hey guys, just caught the tail end of the discussion on Duncans dogs and thought that I would throw this out there. I've known Ken for several years and had lots of black and tans (duncan bloodlines and several others). The older lines and the newer lines that you have discussed are
a little different, but the quality of the dogs is no better or worse than they have ever been. Ken is one of the only breeders that I have ever met that is in it to better the breed, not his financial situation. There is no possible way for the older lines to continue without bringing in some fresh blood, and he has done extremely well in my opinion with the recent crosses that I have in my kennels. skeeter/cricket, skeeter/jill, bo/zoe,
bo/sue. Sure we'd be foolish to think that every dog coming out of his kennel will be outstanding, but how many dogs of any breed or bloodline are outstanding? All I know is that my dogs catch as much game as
any out there, and I wouldn't continue hunting duncan bred dogs if they didn't get the job done! Next time someone wants to kick a guy in the peaches, don't make it ken. He doesn't deserve it , and has forgotten more about hounds than most guys will ever know. Everyone has a right to their own opinion, and mine is that most guys can't even run their own lives, much less train a hound. That's why 90% of the game is caught by 10% of the hunters.

black eye · Post by **black eye** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:47 am

rigdog, you may be right if the dogs that are currently commin from ken are working for you good on ya. but my family has been running black dogs here in utah for over 30 years. some have come from kens place and others from else where. i believe that ken is an upstanding guy. i dont believe the debate is between old and new blood as much as when you find what is working its hard to get away from. i crossed that current dog with some of the old stuff and just had a guy call me saying how happy with the dog he is. the rest of the dogs stayed in the family and seem to be fine as well. and finally i totally agree that the right handler can make a real difference in the overall performance of a dogs potential.

Strike Em' Hot · Post by **Strike Em' Hot** » Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:14 pm

You’re right CDH and Rigdogs! Not hardly fair to talk a bunch of crap about Ken. You won't find me dealing with anyone else. He's a prince of a guy and doesn't deserve stupid ass comments like "I won’t be buying another one directly out of his kennel unless he goes back to some of his older lines", B&T Man! Not too intelligent are ya? You say you want to run only black and tans and now you're talking crap about the best black and tan breeder out there. Not every dog out of that kennel is going to be perfect, but hell what do you expect when you take a guy like ‘B&T Man’ and put him in charge of training the dog. He needs to spend more time grooming that cheesy ass mustache and less time starting a shit talking session about Mr. Duncan. :beer

Catchin bears

Hey

Ken Duncan Dogs