Pitts for catching bear

[cjohnson1178]

I was wondering if any one out their uses Pitts or other bully breeds on bear. I know they use em on pigs. but what about using them on bear that wont tree. I got a buddy that breeds Presa Canario's and he wants me to take one and train it. Not sure if it would be a waste of my time or not. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanx.

[plottpappaw]

I myself wouldn't suggest it! Whats the real chances of keeping up with the race close enough to lead it in to pack! You also gotta look at all the adrenaline thats flowin! I have seen it tried one time and it ended up with the bear getting away a dead pit and a huge dog fight! The pit come in and started catching dogs! If a pit does lock on a bear his life expectancy drops below 1 percent cause a bear has alot more weapons and can move alot better than a hog! I would say your wasting your time! I wouldn't turn loose with you if you brought a bully of any kind!jmo

[cjohnson1178]

thats kinda what i thought would happen, but my buddy insists his dogs can do it. but i dont think it will be with me or my hounds. thanx for the reply, i think your right on. i was just curious if it worked for any one else.

[plottpappaw]

If your looking or in need of a rougher dog outside of a well bred big game hound? I would suggest an airedale! They are just as rough catch just as hard the thick hair keeps them from cutting cut as easy and can trail some! Might i add they mix well with hounds of any type preferably at a quarter! I'm not a fan of hounds and pitts on any game! We catch just as many hogs as everyone else with pure hounds! I bear hunt first and foremost but we hog hunt the last two weeks of our second part of season and last year in the last three weeks we caught 8 hogs weighing in a a half ton all together with plotts and walkers!

[Dan Edwards]

Not that I am a bear hunter nor would I use a bulldog as a catch dog on bear but it always puzzles me how hundreds upon hundreds of hog hunters can use them every day of the week without having these big "dog fights" but anytime anybody brings this subject up on this board, its always the same answer. I have seen so many times cur dogs biting and chowin at one another and growl assin around while the bulldog just sits there staring out as we go flyin down them ole loggin roads. You got two or three growly ass curs right next to him being jack asses and ole bulldog never just reaches over and snatches em up.

[BJ]

i've heard of people using them as turn in dogs on rough bear seem like they worked for them. they may have been half bred but that was their only purpose was puttin bear up that wont tree. never just one at a time because thats an easy kill for a bear. they were all banged up crooked legs and stuff from being banged around previously. anyway thats just a story i've been told for what its worth

[Dan Edwards]

I dont think it would be the right thing to do at all but dog fights would be the last thing I would be worried about.

[plottpappaw]

When using a dog bred for fighting i would most definatly worry bout a dog fight!

[bad moon]

why makes you think all pits are bred for fighting? there are guy out there who breed game driven pits that get hunted day in and day out with no dog fights. i have personally seen one that could trail a racoon and whip a badger. who was calm enough i would let him run with hounds anyday.jmo anyways i have never owned one to try out just a few that can get it done...

[Dan Edwards]

When using a dog bred for fighting i would most definatly worry bout a dog fight!

Very good point but there are quite a few that are watered down and alot of them get born cold.

[gkckak]

If you even had 3 pits on a 200lb bear it the dogs dont stand a chance. Teeth are barely able to penetrate bears fur. Than the bear has a paw and one swipe would kill the dog. If you got the bear even more pissed or scared 1 bite to the back would kill the dog. Unless you want to go around picking up dead dogs dont try it.

[Dan Edwards]

If you even had 3 pits on a 200lb bear it the dogs dont stand a chance. Teeth are barely able to penetrate bears fur. Than the bear has a paw and one swipe would kill the dog. If you got the bear even more pissed or scared 1 bite to the back would kill the dog. Unless you want to go around picking up dead dogs dont try it.

I'll drink to that cause thats what the real problem would be. Dead dogs!

[Hunter]

the wifes family has half pits and they like em. I've turned loose with them before and never worried. I'm not going to set here and tell you that they haven't had dogs fights cause they have but, they also cull everyone that's even remotely growly from the start. They are primarily used on hogs and they catch ALOT of hogs but, they also turn them in on bear and let me tell you they will catch one. The problemS are 1 they go threw ALOT of dogs every year 2 they have ALOT of vet bills 3 they have to break them pits off a bear when it isn't kill season and if you've ever done it it's nerve racking and a more than one man job. but, they put up alot of bears with them half pits. Theirs even rig, trail and will tree. The old dogs that they still have with pit in them are about 1/4 pit or less. They don't have ANY old 1/2 pit or full pits.

[Dan Edwards]

the wifes family has half pits and they like em. I've turned loose with them before and never worried. I'm not going to set here and tell you that they haven't had dogs fights cause they have but, they also cull everyone that's even remotely growly from the start. They are primarily used on hogs and they catch ALOT of hogs but, they also turn them in on bear and let me tell you they will catch one. The problemS are 1 they go threw ALOT of dogs every year 2 they have ALOT of vet bills 3 they have to break them pits off a bear when it isn't kill season and if you've ever done it it's nerve racking and a more than one man job. but, they put up alot of bears with them half pits. Theirs even rig, trail and will tree. The old dogs that they still have with pit in them are about 1/4 pit or less. They don't have ANY old 1/2 pit or full pits.

Thats a great fargin post! I'd like to do that shit.

[plottpappaw]

Well we all agree a full pit on bear is a bad idea! But i believe its the experiences you have had with a particular breed that leaves a lasting impression! I myself was attacked as a child, seen them start huge dog fights hunting and recently had one go for my face! So i'm real down on'm! Not scared by far just not impressed with'm even the ones that ppl really like! I've seen hounds stop pigs without and bull dogs! But i wish all you pitt guys the best of luck with them! I'm just one of them ppl that have no use for them!