Tree Climbers

[pete richardson]

i often have trouble with dogs chewing trees- --they want at that critter ,they dont climb, so they chew- - -i dont want to discourage them from treeing --- but i cant have them girdling every tree -breaking them from that is pretty close to breaking them from climbing. compared to some of you guys , im not qualified to even comment on dogs climbing trees , its rare for dogs to tree where they can reach the first limb here - even at that, ive seen some that climbed pretty bad - i can think of several dogs that were bad when they were younger and seemed to get over it-

not saying they wouldnt climb a big leaning tree---but they stopped pulling themselves up branch to branch to the top
- i yank em out if i can catch them at it -whether its falling out of trees , or me yanking them down that stops it, i cant be sure


i tell all my pups, stop chewing--stop face barking - stop running up that tree, just set your azz down and bark till i get there---thats your job -


since they dont hear too good ,i have to do whatever i can to persuade them -

a little time working on pups is very worthwhile

old dogs probably a waste of time , but occasionally , an old dog can learn new tricks ,


seen a few dogs that would climb any tree where they could reach the first limb and go till they fell out -- i might use a shock collar on one like that -i havent yet , after haveing to climb to get some like that, ive wanted to shoot them out




since a shock collar has been adjustable at the transmitter , it can be used for almost any kind of training
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its just a tool , not a magic wand -- it has a tone buttion-- you can get pretty creative with that tone button ---you can use lower settings-i always think that the guys that are most against shocking collars are the ones that could get the most benefit ,-its just an extension of my hand --
- just wearing a collar ,really improves my dogs hearing

WARNING
its a powerful tool , be careful--

you can ruin a dog with a shock collar- all advice on shock collars needs to come with that disclaimer- if you lose your temper ,put that transmitter down.

for me , the trick with a shock collar is use the lowest settings that will work ,

even for trashbreaking , use less voltage ,use it more often, have better results - .


i try to use shock collar on one thing at a time-

,right now i have a young dog that is learning to be quiet in the dog box-
he has been shocked several times a day for barking , he may be worst case ive ever owned-
i think a shock collar is eventually going to save his life --- the dog is almost crazy -- i think i could have ruined him by now , if i didnt have a shock collar

[Coyote]

if you lose your temper ,put that transmitter down.

That's the best piece of advice I've heard on here in a long time.

[Eric Muff]

now I love see my dogs up on the wood but have begun to recognize that as my string of dogs gets tougher and more determined to catch albeit,Lion ,Bear or bobcat tree issues start show their ugly head,
A buddy of mine suggested working their feet off the tree thus making them feel more comfortable treeing from back say 10 feet.It seems to work and puts those dogs back away from confrontation,tree runners, keeps things more manageable.
It's easy to do as well.

[Spokerider]

Climbing is prolly an inherited "treeing" trait that we've inadvertantly bred into our dogs, just as there are sit-down type dogs at the tree. I suspect the trait that the sit down type dogs have is consitently being bred out, soon to be a rare trait in a treeing dog, if it's not already.

[Waterway]

I am probably going to bring the roof down on my head for this statement but here goes. I have never tried to stop any hound of mine from climbing. I have never had a hound with any kind of injury because of it. They learn their limits. They don't like being up in the tree when the action starts on the ground either! The only accident that happened once was I got to feeling sorry for my one old hound and started up after him. Of course I slipped and half killed myself! Shortly afterward the old boy come scooting out of the tree by himself....