Needing some info

[trackdog]

Hello all I'm not hear to start an argument, but since I'm an old coon hunter I can guess where this will end up.

I've recently took up tracking wounded game for people. I'm looking for the breed/bloodline that in your opinion has the best cold nose. Keep in mind this dog will work on lead and doesn't have to be fast, just smart enough to get from the start to the finish. I'd prefer it to straddle the track all the way, but always going forward. This dog will at times be called on to follow deer 24hrs or more after the shot. Being proud and having a soft spot for these dogs, I don't want to get a german hound you have to beg them to sell you. I think some of or hounds should be able to compete with a german wiener dog, right?
I'm not set on any breed, but that soft spot in me gets plum marshy for blue dogs.

[Jim Meacham]

I'd be looking in the direction of a bloodhound no doubt

[trackdog]

Bloodhounds typically extremely exceed what you need and you have to lead that huge (100+ typically) dog through the woods. I know most of you guys seek a dog that can run old cold lines well, and I believe they would work well. Breeds have changed a bit since I last worked with them. I know you can get a cold nosed dog in any breed, but which breed/bloodline would I have the best chance at getting a very cold nosed dog.
My health stopped me from coon hunting, but my heart isn't content without a coon hound. I'm just trying to get advice on one that will best suit my need.

[Arkansas Frog]

I have seen some Border Collies do a great job. and are smart.

[ZeluvaRIP69er]

Get a redbone bloodhound!

Way better lookin then the bloodhounds, a lot smaller, and they are eye catchers!

We used to have one, we got her out of colorado, Ol Red, from Blake Sheltons song, was actually in her papers.

When they are born they have a giant black stripe all the way down their back, and before ya know it, it is gone and you have a pure redbone red bloodhound.

Just a thought

[killemallboy]

german jadgterrier has been bred for hunting as well as blood trailing that would be my choice

[Pops]

coldest beagle you can find? a lot of professionals over in europe use teckel (working stock weinerdogs). try here.

http://www.deersearch.org/index.htm

[mefishme1234]

yeah a beagle would work... small and easy to handle and they have good noses too.. CHEAP TO FEED TOO!! HAHA

[trackdog]

Thanks for all the input, I guess I wasn't very clear. Just wanted info on American hound breeds, I know about beagles, bassets, jags, teckels, bavarian, hanoverians, drahthaars, slovakians, cur breeds(what I have now), and most any other breed of dog that will track. I asked here because I wanted to get good information from people that work hounds in conditions and situations that should really show their true ability. I just thought some one could steer me in a direction to get a fairly cold nosed American hound that could match a german dachshund. Have the noses been bred out of the American hounds?
I've even considered the majestics, but the're hard to come by and large like a blood hound. I can find a coon hound around 50lbs or even less. I'm thinking a smokey river bred blue dog, but don't know much about redbone and b&t bloodlines.

Thanks for the link, but I'm a member of the org. lol.

[arizonabeagle]

i would think anything breed to hunt dry ground would work
anything that'll cold trail a mountain lion all day will find you a wounded deer in the woods lol but then again i dont know where you live so i'd go with whatever anyone in your area uses to trail tracks that old with sucess would be your best bet

BUT bealges WILL do anything you want em too, and you can even get em blueticked!

[trackdog]

I would consider a beagle if it could track a line 30+ hours old. I don't have any expirience with beagles, do you think they could be successful on a line that old. A deer leaves a strong sent trail behind, I really don't know how different animals compare.
The dry ground blood lines are kind of what I was thinking, but I have know idea where to start. That is why I'm here, I'm from GA and ain't much dry ground here. If you hunt a coon dog here that gets much colder than the average walcur you tree up a lot of den trees. A good smokey river breed blue dog may do just fine, no one uses a coonhound here to judge their ability. I may be overdoing it, but I'd rather start with too much nose if possible than not enough. Most of the people here I would call sucessful use either WHD's or Baverians, other breeds are pretty much hit or miss. You get a great one occationaly but more often you get a dud. The majority use their yard dog or birddog to take people's money. I don't charge people, my payment is success.

[waylon]

I had a catahoula that was real trashy on deer and so during deer season i had put the word out that i thought he could track wounded deer, 3 guys called me the first year ( i did it for free that year )and he found all three. Dont think he was real cold nosed but did handle good and was real good at finding deer, used him later on and so long as they didnt wait until the next day to call me had great sucess.I charged them $50.00 if i found the deer, it was a good way to help off set dog feed cost. Now he is retired and gaurds impounded cars for my buddy

[trackdog]

Yea thats kind of where I'm at now. I have a Lacy Game dog(very similar in nose) and as long as I get there quickly they do fine. Trouble is most hunters look for it half the night, go back the next morning, then call me at work mid day to come when I get off. That's what I'm looking for a dog to handle. If I can get there the same day the Lacy can handle it.

[MDbloodtracker]

trackdog, sent you a pm, but not sure if it went through......I use my Majestic exclusively to track wounded game, specifically bloodtrack deer.....Even at 88 pounds, I spent every week training her since she was 10 weeks old....she is easy to handle in the woods.......sometimes it gets challenging getting her to the track when she know's it time to work......she gets pretty fired up.....But, once on track, she's 100% committed, and patient.....and very exciting to watch her move a track.........Her oldest track was this past season and about 25 hours old.....I have some old posts on the "Majestic Forum" when we first started out....This dog's nose is incredible, and she's a natural...... I still use a 30 foot lead for tracking purposes, but will probably take her off it this season when she's 3 years old....I don't think we need the lead anymore....She does not run deer, she sticks to the track, and that certainly helps the cause...

let me know if you received my pm...