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There are several longer rubber duckys on the market that work. I have posted that in the garmin threads several times. I am waiting for another model right now. Once I get it tested will report on it. This will be side by side testing of several units in hunting and controlled scenarios. Not a I think thing.

You do not want connect the long antenna shown in this thread right to the garmin. That is why I said you need the portable long range base. Yes, then they save you some money. I have been getting a good replacement from Hong Kong. Problem is they go faster than I can buy them. Then it takes forever to get them via airmail.

Length is not always a good thing. It is if it is tuned or designed for the signal. Yet jsut because it is a longer antenna does not make it better. If that makes any sense. Diamond makes the RH205. Which is a lot like that one shown. Yet it is tuned for 2m like most stuff. So the stock antenna does a better job even though it is a bit longer.

Yes the digital signal drops off faster. That is why when explaining the difference to folk, and have posted it. The change we all seen when we went from analog to digital cell phones. Also why you may get a text message out and not be able to make a call. it all works a bit different.

The garmin comes out of the box on anyone one 5 base frequencies with 10 channels per frequency. I have posted this before as well, but here it is again.

151.820 MHz 11.25 kHz Id's- 0-9
151.880 MHz 11.25 kHz Id's- 10-19
151.940 MHz 11.25 kHz Id's- 20-29
154.570 MHz 20.00 kHz Id's- 30-39
154.600 MHz 20.00 kHz Id's- 40-49

You can change them at anytime. Notice the bandwith I posted. This is how there is multiple channels used on each frequency. Some companies are claiming more channels, but yet they still are using the same frequencies. They are just closer together. So you could have a 151.820, 820.1, 820.2 etc. Sure more channels but are they useable. NO!! Even stacking the Garmin collars in one ID range causes porblems. IE 0-9.
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Buddy,

just a suggestion but maybe we could get a "Garmin GPS Tracking" section to post all this stuff in. i know steve has posted most of this stuff all about 10 times before but when a new thread is started in different sections he likes to share his knowledge and so does everyone else. just a thought. i know there is an equipment review section but it seems like the garmin stuff gets posted elsewhere sometimes.

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Its flexible.. so it shouldn't break the same. And if you have a base already with a broken antenna you can save a little money .. right?
It doesn't break the same, I don't know what Steve is talking about...I haven't broke the smiley yet. Unless he means the telescoping part, in which case, I guess if you are walking around with it extended and fall or something, it would break. As for saving money, I think the ant. was about $20 so not a whole lot cheaper than a new Garmin LR, BUT it will last much longer - you do need a garmin LR base for it.
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CD- Most of the breaks I have seen have been in the telescoping part. Folks putting them together to fast bending then breaking them. Catching them in doors, etc. Have yet to see one break at the base.

First one my daughter touched she broke. Was not even on a unit. She tried to push it together with her palm from the top. Damm, Amazon snapped it like a twig about halfway down!!! Same way most of them seem to be breaking.

Have had a few guys walking with them in the woods. Go to cross a fence or log, and break them. No spring base is going to prevent this.

No matter which telescoping antenna you get they are fragile. So you need to take care with them.


Surprisingly, I have yet to break one!!!!! Bent the heck out of them a few times though!
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I've broken two of them at the base, and one by the telescoping part from closing it to quickly with the palm of my hand..

Mine where closed when I broke them, Not being used. Just packing them.

It's just a bad design all around.
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So what antenna should I buy for my Garmin guys? I don't need one that isn't there for me when I need it.....what do I need to go on my factory Garmin for long range?

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Like I tell everyone, How much do you want to spend? It's a personal choice.

Personally I like to have both, Just like I have a yagi, and a truck antenna for the beep collars.

But if your just getting one, it's really a Personal Choice.. As mentioned above, You have have to be very.>VERY..Careful with the LR antenna.. They are not built for Hound guys..

If a guy is just wanting something to get by, and is using Standard Beep collars, I recomend the mag mount. It works decent, it's harder to break, and it's about half the price.

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Anyone that knows me knows i am very hard on equipment I have had my garmin long range since last spring and I have not broken it I created a portable carrying case and it has save the unit for me , i still have to be careful how I take down the telescopic part.
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I can clip it to my belt or pack and I just leave it connected as apposed to the little rubber ducky as the little one I can hardly use.
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Great idea...thanks for sharing.

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I just carry mine in my saddle bags.... and only put it on when I need to get a direction if I haven't been able to stay with the dogs.. never broke while I was doing that. The way I did bend it was trying to push it in with my palm still didn't break it but bent it pretty good.. the way I finally broke it was I strapped it to my buggy while I was exercising the dogs this summer and ran under a tree limb.. :oops:
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